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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:52:00

these drones are used for photographing wedding ceremonies, retrofitting them. the kind of thing you ordered to do your wedding ceremony, but they ve made them into the weapons. they use the most modern sophisticated military software that s ever been used is being used right now in ukraine. at the same time, they still have weapons to look like they re left over from the soviet invasion of afghanistan in the 80s. it s always a big mix. one of the reasons we find it so hard to predict what would happen is that it s not an army that looks either like what we thought it would look like, nor really like anything else. it s a really partisan volunteer army, pulling in whatever it can from wherever it can, and so far it s working. so resourceful. but not entirely, which is to say entirely dependent in some way on american support.

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:53:00

send them over the border. and one point they re saying these drones are used for photographing wedding ceremonies, retrofitting them. the kind of thing you ordered to do your wedding ceremony, but they ve made them into the weapons. they use the most modern sophisticated military software that s ever been used is being used right now in ukraine. at the same time, they still have weapons to look like they re left over from the soviet invasion of afghanistan in the 80s. it s always a big mix. one of the reasons we find it so hard to predict what would happen is that it s not an army that looks either like what we thought it would look like, nor really like anything else. it s a really partisan volunteer army, pulling in whatever it can form wherever it can, and so far it s working. so resourceful. but not entirely, which is to say entirely dependent in some way on american support. adele much fear did you sense

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 08:52:00

so everybody expected this war as the defense minister said to us to be a war between a big soviet army and small soviet army. and what we didn t realize over the last eight years since 2014 ukrainians have completely remade their army and to deal with leads of volunteers, young people entering the army and they ve completely transformed it in completely odd ways. so it doesn t work the way our army works. we went, for example, to a drone workshop. a drone workshop is a room kind of the size of this one with tables, and on the tables there s bits of glue and wire and a 3-d printer and what literally look like styrofoam airplanes. at some point they said these drones are used for wedding ceremonies. they ve remade them into weapons, and that s of course at the low end of what they do.

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