in this relentless war, where the fighting never stops. mark lobel bbc news. hamish de bretton gordon is a chemical and biological weapons expert. thank you forjoining us this morning on bbc news. these are allegations so far being made by this territorial group around the mariupol region. how do you go about gathering that evidence and what are the challenges in achieving it? it will be a challenge to get the evidence, obviously there is a lot on social media and the defence minister has commented. i am talking to a number of doctors, not in mariupol but surrounding areas, who are looking at this too. they will need to get some environmental earth type samples and medical samples to
hamish de bretton gordon is a chemical and biological weapons expert. he told my colleague lukwesa burak that proving claims of chemical weapon use in ukraine could be challenging. it will be a challenge to get that evidence. obviously there is a lot on social media and the defence minister has also commented. i am talking to a number of doctors, not in mariupol but in surrounding areas, who are looking at this too. it will be a challenge. they will need to get some environmental, earth type samples and medical samples to confirm the allegations that some sort of nerve agent or toxic chemical has been used. it is rather out of the playbook that the russians have been using that they saw work so successfully in syria. and they have had trouble taking mariupol. we also know that the ministry of defence in the uk suggested yesterday that they might use white phosphorus, not a chemical weapon but it has similar attributes. it will be a challenge, for sure.
hundreds more small explosive devices are being discovered in residential areas such as here in kharkiv, landing as people sleep. in this relentless war, where the fighting never stops. mark lobel, bbc news. hamish de bretton gordon is a chemical and biological weapons expert. he said proving these claims of chemical weapon use in ukraine could be challenging. it will be a challenge to get that evidence. obviously there is a lot on social media and the defence minister has also commented. i am talking to a number of doctors, not in mariupol but in surrounding areas, who are looking at this too. it will be a challenge. they will need to get some environmental, earth type samples and medical samples to confirm the allegations that some sort of nerve agent or toxic chemical has been used. it is rather out of the playbook
were deceptively sold. the facts are a live round or multiple live rounds ended up in a box labeled as dummies. reporter: the court documents also provide the first detailed account of what gutierrez reed says she did in the hours leading up to the shooting that killed cinematographer halyna hutchins. saying gutierrez reed last checked that the bullets she loaded and took from a box labeled dummy rounds were not live 15 minutes before the shooting, but she was not inside the church when the firearm went off and would never have let baldwin point the weapon at helena. the documents also say baldwin did not respond to hannah s request on october 15th to schedule cross-draw training. baldwin has said he spent an hour and a half in safety instruction with gutierrez reed, but one weapons expert who reviewed the complaint tells nbc news based on how the weapon was handled both producers and gutierrez reed may bear some
because that would be very dire if that happened. understood. but short of engaging our troops, are there any military equipments, any weapons that should be off the table if they help the ukrainians defeat the russians? well, let me just say, nicole, i m not a weapons expert, so i would have to defer to what the president and the defense officials believe need to happen, but for the most part, defensive weapons that the ukrainians need, that are weapons that actually, the europeans and other countries have provided support for the ukrainians in this effort. i mean, they re fighting very boldly, very vigorously. they ve engaged in a way that people didn t even think they could engage in, and so whatever they need, they certainly should receive, but again, that s up to the protocols that our defense