nobody. we wouldn t have females in sport. that s why the male and female categories exist. yes, we have to be inclusive, but categories exist for a reason, which is so that females, children, master athletes and people with disabilities and lighter males in some sports can compete fairly and take part fully in sport. dana: martina navalny said this said. once somebody has gone through male puber tee there is no way to erase that physical advantage. i can t just try to lower testosterone levels. most retired female athletes have chosen not to probably because there will be backlash against you for coming out and saying that. have you experienced that yet? yes. i was looking before this interview online about criticism of me. i ve been called a trans phobe.
category for females only, i would be a complete nobody. every female would be a complete nobody. we wouldn t have females in sport. that s why the male and female categories exist. jason, take her point there and then apply it with frank s comments as well where she said next year fine, i ll run in the male category and run in the other and i won t take anybody s medal. isn t that exactly the point critics are arguing? yes, scientifically you have greater lung capacities and greater muscles, please compete in a category that biologically protects not only your standings and your ability but also those of the biological women competing? jason: fundamentally i believe there should be a men s category and a women s category and it should be as simple as that but i got to tell you having read this article with an open mind, i was fairly sympathetic with this person