today. so, i think it will be through some kind of swab, as we tal before now, you know, they alread have other americans, they hav paul whelan, they have mar fogle. it s not clear to me if they were interested in swabs, they need to arrest another american but tragically, i think that s the only way they will get out where do we stand on thos other americans who ar detained, right? we can say all day long that blinken is calling for the immediate release. but you just said it russia is not a line of loss no, and remember, the las swap they did, victor bout for brittney griner, the swap that was a hard call for the bide administration, but i supporte it i think everybody was better off for. that but then those other tw americans have remained in captivity. they ve been sitting in jail ever since evan, of, course is creating more news attention. and let s be clear, he was doing his job. there is no evidence whatsoeve
he just recently, his last big article was about how sanction are hurting the russia economy. and that s exactly the kind of reporting that vladimir puti does not want out of russia. so, i don t know if that s why he got arrested. i don t know if they re just picking him up because the want to trade for other spies, real spies that have bee picked up around the world recently but it s a really horrible situation that does not have a easy answer. so, how do we get this ma home honestly, i do not know it s not going to happen through the rule of law. i think everybody needs to understand there is no rule of law in russia. you have no rights inside that country today. that was not true when i was ambassador, but it is true today. so, i think it will be through some kind of swap, as we tal before now, you know, they alread have other americans, they hav paul whelan, they have mar fogle. it s not clear to me if they were interested in swaps, they
milgram. we tal earlier. i am a little bit surhey didn t ask straightaway that they didn t ask for bail revoked or revise. it seems to be an egregious. i think it is possible that they will bring additional charges which is the obstruction statute. and c, there is a decent chance this evidence is going to come in to show he was conscious of what he was doing was wrong. i am surprised why the hearing is going to take place 11 days from now and not sooner. maybe the judge is trying to give the defense a chance it respond to allegations. but if you read the do the allegatio seem strong. thanks very much. when we come back, epa chief
perfect in some ways. to the extent he gets replaced with more coverage that really is 100% inside the bubble instead of 85% inside the bubble will only make that information problem worse. it does strike me that the part of what defined this era of the trump presidency in so many ways is the fact that the president himself is getting his information from the bullhorn. that was the thing that was used to communicate to the base. right. this is all about base politics. we tal about alternative facts, when kellyanne conway mentioned that phrase, they re talking things that aren t true and people on rush limbaugh and glen beck when he was hot and bill o reilly. bill o reilly s been called out because of sexual harassment. for years, he s been up there saying things just not true while insisting that they are true and if any calls him out saying those people are pin heads or part of a conspiracy to get him or part of a left wing