basically. just this whirlpool of grievance. i met him more than ten years ago in london. cadir told us rich or poor, he had caited or not, extremism doesn t discriminate. he s a champion for chanterrori long before it happens and young muslims make the choice to become a terrorist. hey, jim. been a long time. and you, my friend. and you. do you have a sense of how many young people you helped during that time? we maid we made a huge amount of difference over the years and grew from a small organization to delivering into 11, 12, different parts of the country and abroad in pakistan. we helped people understand that they have a stake in society and in life to do things differently. i can t describe how much how grateful i am towards him. it took us a bit of time.
and nbc political analyst phil rucker, and washington bureau chief and usa today bureau chief susan page who interviewed the president exclusively last night on the trip to houston. and jof, to you first, the caravan claims of going to washington and the caravan coming, and take a look at part of what he had to say. go into the middle of the caravan and search. and no, no. take the camera and go into the middle and search, you will find ms-13 and middle eastern and everything. you know how the caravan started? does everybody know what this means? i think that the the democrats had something to do with it, and now they are saying, that i think that we maid a big mistake, because people are seeing how bad it is. geoff bennett, do some fact checking first of all on the
creators of the women s march on denver. good to have you both here congratulations on the perceived success of your efforts. we re in this effort. one is measuring and numbers, using photos trying to prove something as silly as how many people went to the inauguration. how big do you believe your delivery was and what does it mean to you? well, we still don t have a final count of how many people were actually there, but our message was very effective. we went global. we were all seven continents including antarcticantarctica. did you have the penguins out there? yes, seriously, the march of the men gi the pen agains. we maid it very clear. people banning together, religions, races, ages.
to look like? not going to look as good as 2014 was. arthel: back up for a second and what caused the rally? rally for 2014 in particular was a couple things. good economic data. we re making more widgets and pencils. we re exporting more. that employment picture is better. remember first part of 2014 we had all the bad weather? remember the polar vortex we don t want to see again from a life perspective, that affected growth in 2014. so we had a lot to gain and pick up in the second half. we maid that happen. the fed was giving us all that free money. printing money printing money that will end in 2015. that is one of the things we had. this year we won t have it for next year. arthel: with that in mind, cheryl if you re investing should you ride this wave aggressively or maybe proceed with a bit more caution? if you look at the expectations for 2015, let s