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familiar with the matter that they would focus on russian interference and not obstruction of justice, but what is striking is that for the two months leading foup the midterms lea to the midterms we heard barely anything, and now a week after, we are hearing a ton the about it. and the president is only a few blocks from here at the marine barracks on eighth street at cap le toll hill, and they ae not that far from us. he and the first lady are at an event honoring the marines here in washington, as we are watching the pictures, of course, the the live pictures, and joyce vance, we can only infer what is in if president s mind, and maybe it is focusing on the questions and answers submitted by the lawyers, and this is in, change and in place of a real interview. we don t know if mueller is going to push ahead on the other issues and go for the subpoena, and that is a lengthy court battle, but what could be
what giuliani talked about, one of the things he talked about with alisyn camerota this morning was the idea that there was this alleged second meeting or excuse me a meeting that happened a couple of days before the notorious trump tower meeting with don jr. and the russian attorney and so on and so forth where they talked about what they would discuss, like a premeeting, basically. so giuliani brought it up as if the meeting happened with alisyn camerota. it was not clear. i talked to him afterwards, and he said no, the reason i brought it up is because reporters came to me, meaning giuliani and to jay sekulow, another member of the trump legal team, saying that this is being floated to them, to the reporters that there was an additional meeting where they were going through the russia situation, that cohen was a part of it. giuliani said that he and sekulow found out in doing their own investigating internally is oh, that meeting never happened.
understand why he would be doing that, but it s not reflective of what actually is happening below the surface in the mueller investigation. there is no question about it. what giuliani is latching onto, also, are when the counsel s office, when mueller s office is saying, we want to ask about these things, he s latching onto them as that s all the evidence that they have. which, of course, we know it s not the case. tomorrow, gates is starting cooperating as the manafort trial starts. so we ll only then start to hear what the full scope of the evidence. when it comes to flip, we still don t know fully who he has cooperated against, how many people he is cooperating against, what his information. so it is like an iceberg where you only see the tip. and it s not until the cases are brought and tried that the public will get to see all the information. and garrett, you also make the point that we don t know if mueller is done with manafort, whether he ll bring additional charges, whe