opportunity pays. kadaria: we don t depend on government fine, but you re running your own business. anthony: right. kadaria: so you pay a bribe. because that s the only way to get things done. every person seems to be tainted a little. anthony: police, politicians, business leaders. everybody gets their piece of the action. it s a daily fact of life in lagos. [ sirens ] this is a big oil-rich country. why doesn t it look like dubai? kadaria: well, i hate to be on this show and talk nigeria down. you know what it is, because you hear all these things all the time. so yes, there is corruption, it is about corruption. it s about that fact that the resources that are supposed to be used for people aren t being used for people. anthony: kadaria ahmed is a progressive journalist, editor, and tv host who moderates the presidential debates. kadaria: years of military rule meant that people were brutalized. there was a fight against
anthony: right. [ speaking foreign language ] who really runs the streets the de facto front line of law and order or area boys? tunti: the government tries to get people on the street, like the foot soldiers. anthony: an area boy s crew levels street taxes on, well, everything. reporting to their regional boss. a king of boys. [ speaking foreign language ] taxis, buses, any target of opportunity pays. kadaria: we don t depend on government fine, but you re running your own business. anthony: right. kadaria: so you pay a bribe. because that s the only way to get things done. every person seems to be tainted a little. anthony: police, politicians,
a king of boys. [ speaking foreign language ] taxis, buses, any target of opportunity pays. kadaria: we don t depend on government fine, but you re running your own business. anthony: right. kadaria: so you pay a bribe. because that s the only way to get things done. every person seems to be tainted a little. anthony: police, politicians, business leaders. everybody gets their piece of the action. it s a daily fact of life in lagos. [ sirens ] this is a big oil rich country. why doesn t it look like dubai? kadaria: well, i hate to be on this show and talk nigeria down. you know what it is, because you
everything. reporting to their regional boss. a king of boys. [ speaking foreign language ] taxis, buses, any target of opportunity pays. kadaria: we don t depend on government fine, but you re running your own business. anthony: right. kadaria: so you pay a bribe. because that s the only way to get things done. every person seems to be tainted a little. anthony: police, politicians, business leaders. everybody gets their piece of the action. it s a daily fact of life in lagos. [ sirens ] this is a big oil rich country. why doesn t it look like dubai? kadaria: well, i hate to be
expand itss borders and that comes from the sweat of people on the street. once government interferes in private activity, more often than not, they make it complex. and they move it towards extinction. [ cars honking ] tunti: a lot of people are outside the tax net, so the state government has to do very genius in trying to get taxes. anthony: right. [ speaking foreign language ] who really runs the streets the de facto front line of law and order or area boys? tunti: the government tries to get people on the street, like the foot soldiers. anthony: an area boy s crew levels street taxes on, well, everything. reporting to their regional boss. a king of boys. [ speaking foreign language ] taxis, buses, any target of opportunity pays. kadaria: we don t depend on government fine, but you re running your own business. anthony: right. kadaria: so you pay a bribe. because that s the only way to get things done.