the ability of assad to deliver these chemical weapons? that s where we have to focus on a broader strategy because the tactic also flow from that. pete: ryan, that s a good point, if you don t have a strategies your tactics can be aimless. it seems that the trump administration has wanted to focus on just preventing the use of chemical weapons. is that what you re seeing? yes. but they also want to get assad and his inner circle out of power to resign and probably leave the country. when people say that the policy is now regime change as if they are uprooting the entirety of the government. that s not accurate. the other lessons that we need to learn is to support forces on the ground fighting islamic militias as is going on in libya now. i will also add if something goes wrong probably shouldn t blame it on a youtube video. pete: fair point. fred, in libya, we took out a dictator. didn t have a plan afterwards. if ba shall al assad intentionally or unintentionally were to be dedepo
hit the bully the in its fanned usually the conflict backs down. clayton: he launched airplanes immediate kwr59ly after our strike. bashar al saad. i don t know what he is doing right now. because the bigger question to me is, yes, we re stopping the chemical strikes or that s our red line there. but, to those people who have been bombed and killed, the children. they don t care whether it s gas or barrel bombs that he has been dumping on them for years. is it just the chemical strike? are we going to see stronger response from this white house as the bombing continues regardless if it s chemicals or not. people on the ground in jerry are happy that the united states is now doing something instead of just rhetoric and actually doing it we know what needs to happen is bashar al assad needs to be he doesn t need to be taken down but removed with the help of russia. russia is there their. they have one of their naval ports right there. need to get rid of assad. reason the civil war st
changing assad s behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically. you can see there republicans gave this an a. independents a little bit lower at b. democrats gave it about a c, c minus. what the democrats didn t like was the talked about failed attempts before. what republicans and independentindependents were reg to before a leader taking strong action and about time we take a stand and do not allow these things to keep happening. clayton: what about being the moral leader in the world trump addressed this and getting help from other nations. take a listen. tonight i call on all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and blood shed in syria. and also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types. we ask for god s wisdom as we
situation and on russia and on assad. we now now and as we should have known then that we couldn t trust assad or russia. i do think it did result in assad giving up a lot of the chemical weapons. obviously he kept some, he hid soil. he was successful in having them to use them later on which he has now done. abby: that s one of the bigger questions here too. iran is a huge player here and that concern whether or not they had chemical weapons in syria. couldn t you ask the same question about iran with nuclear weapons? are they really getting rid of them or are they rebuilding them for all we know? well, that s a relevant question. you know, i think the monitoring regime that we have in place for iran is much stronger and much more significant. but i also have, you know, some questions about the iran agreement. i think that also could have been stronger. as with syria just getting iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions wasn t enough and isn t enough because we know that iran
let me be clear here, we should not be talking about removing assad without a plan. let s consider that about half to 60% of the syrian rebels were not just fragmented, they are islamist or hard line jihadists. we could make the situation much, much worse. right now i see two scenarios. we have to occupy the country and engage in nation building, the american people will never stand for that. or, the country falls into anarchy like libya and al qaeda and isis and other islamist groups take over. for now we should be roining in assad. intensifying diplomacy. let s not do something rash that will make the situation much, much worse. pete: decisive action sends a strong signal to the world that america is back. we won t stand for breach he is of international norms. brian, i don t know if we have that much time so i don t know if we ll go all the way around again. how is this a wake-up call for