signatures in less than two weeks. this in support of the get money out campaign. we re now just 10,000 and change away from our first official digital double. and according to our next guest, this wave theory is a perfect metaphor for the power we can all harness together, if we unite with aligned interests and shared visibility for a common passion. in fact, he says, in our hyperconnected world, in this unified field, that is the only way that we, together, will be able to solve the global challenges that we face, and ultimately, this is not a left/right world. this is an up/down world. and we will either rise or fall together. and with us now is dov seidman. the book is called how: why how we do anything means everything. what do you mean. we live in a world where it s not what we do, but how we do what we do means most.
central issue. by this morning, we were 164,000. but in order to capture the mathematics of digital wave theory, we must be doubling ourselves. each of us, partners on the list. our next goal, get to 200,000 and then enroll those 200,000 to double again to 400, so that the wave grows and doubles as each one of us in this list and in this mission is working together to expand it to a size that is formidable enough to take on the presidential conventions next summer. the second phase of phase 2, if you will, is that we work together on shaping the get money out constitutional amendment language. we think this is the best way to accomplish our singular goal of tearing down the green curtain of money that is making it impossible to give america the debate it deserves so that we can have real solutions to jobs, real solutions to energy, and real solutions to trade and on and on.
a song? if money speech, is money song? i suppose it could be. not one you d want to listen to. yeah, right, exactly. listen, we ve had a lot of folks, a lot of resources coming in from a lot of people in different ways. some people bring money. leo hendry said, listen, i ll seed the foundation. jimmy williams said, listen, i will leave my career as a lobbyist here in washington, because i m disgusted, because it s become fund-raising. i ll be the executive director. there are 140,000 and counting people who are participating in a public exercise in digital wave theory. > yes. can we double ourselves in public by simply each one of us taking responsibility? and one thing that i was wondering is whether we can list people like yourselves and other musicians and other artists in general to invest your resources in america, by throwing events, by sponsoring events over the next year, where we can have
kondratiev says let me think about it. so he studies capitalism. communism. he comes up with a wave theory. okay? he says to stalin, you know what? i ve been thinking about it and i think it s every 40 to 60 years you have this cycle. let me explain hit the way. let s start here. this is winter. economic winter. it s really what we re at the beginning of right now. this is when everything is just cold and nasty. okay? there is nothing going on. people start to lose hope. they re like well, what is it? this is the great depression. okay? then there is springtime. this is i d say this started in probably 1947 with us. springtime. it just starts coming up and everything is exciting. this is where the phrase
we should. now let me introduce you to somebody else from history. this is an economist you probably never heard of because he s been practically erased from the history books. he was a russian. his name was nikkeli kondrakia and is credited with popularizing it s so popular with the people i hang out with the wave theory on capitalism. 1925, writes a book major economic cycles. basically, the wave theory hang on, i need my pipe. the wave theory was a capit capitalism for pattern of ups and downs an long waves average 40 to 60 years. well they always show a turn-around. let me explain what it means. here is a guy in russia. stalin comes to him and says, what is better, communism or capitalism? you re stalin, what do you think you ll say?