she was the one that everybody saw would go into battle behind her efforts. not just ukraine but even within the e.u. so she is the corrupt creature here. she s the bad part, ari. so here s the question. what was the corruption that was so corrupt that she wasn t fired before now? that deep state pompeo didn t think she should have been fired for? or maybe he is part of the cover-up? i mean, this is where the story and the narrative gets really silly. but you know what? create the confusion, create it, throw it out there, do it in plain sight, and it will make enough noise that the truth doesn t look like the truthful. i get why rudy giuliani might think it is good for rudy giuliani to get ahead of anything. the watergate precedent. you had some of the worst, worst, worst tapes and there were extensive white house
now, that said, if i were nadler, you know, he probably has he probably has those articles of impeachment already written. they re drafted. he s just waiting for the go-ahead from up high from the speaker to move forward, and i just don t see that permission slip coming. i don t see it coming anytime soon because the american public simply isn t there on impeachment. but who is trying to persuade the american public to support it? that s my point. who is out there in the democratic party loudly leading this charge? i don t see anybody leading this charge right now. nobody with a loud voice like trump has. go ahead, susan. if you go back and look at the watergate precedent, in fact it was the impeachment inquiry and the investigation itself that created the narrative and created and built a story for the american people to engage. and it really it s fascinating to look at that history in the context of where we are right now and to see how peter rudino from right where i grew
the trump campaign and say there are news stories but it s all about the republicans and what they want to press. what do you make of the timing? of the timing? well, i think the timing probably isn t that bad just given what happened this week, given the self dealing. nadler is smart to drop it. that said, if i were nadler, he probably has those articles of impeachment already written, they re drafted. he s waiting for the go ahead from up high, the speaker, to move forward. i don t see that permission slip coming. i don t see it coming any time soon because the american public isn t there on impeachment. who s trying to persuade the american party to support it? i don t see anybody with a loud voice like trump has. if you go back and look at the watergate precedent, in fact
but my gosh! i was going to say, she s walking right up to the line, but it sounds like you re going over the line and then saying, but i m not over the line. did tied her hands. it seemed like she came out of the meeting where she got an earful on this and say, i m going to go further in public, say absolutely no one s above the law, the president engaged in a cover-up, but let s use the strategy we ve been using so far. can she walk that line? well, look, they want to control the pace and the kind of unfolding of this inquiry. i mean, if you look back at the watergate precedent, there s no question that the senate watergate hearings, which were a full year before impeachment, began a significant change in public opinion. and i think democrats have understood that bringing the mueller report to life through testimony, you know, is an important that s the horse. you don t want to put the cart before that, because you need to not just sorta comfortable. you wouldn t accept from
in the usual circumstance it is put up or shut up. indict or say nothing at all. here you have a situation where the president can t be indicted under justice department policy. so that s not a risk. also, you have the watergate precedent where jaworski, the special prosecutor, turned over a famous bulging briefcase of evidence to congress of relevant evidence for possible impeachment. the public does have an interest here independent of the criminal justice system. and it really is inconceivable to me that the public and certainly the congress wouldn t be allowed to see what mueller had spent all this time. should it be made public? i think barr said as much as possible should be made public and commented on memos and where people are indicted and that evidence doesn t make its way when a prosecutor declines to prosecute someone.