if you look at what republicans said about the oversight responsibilities of congress when they were conducting oversight of obama or bill clinton, they sounded quite different than they sound today when it is oversight by democrats over republican president. here is rudy giuliani back in 1998 talking about presidents and subpoenas. this is during the clinton impeachment. take a listen. the watergate litigation resolved the fact that the president is not above the law, is not able to avoid subpoenas. but now rudy giuliani is trying to avoid a subpoena and he s not even the president. yeah. it seems the times have changed. there is so many gems like that i think. certainly because giuliani was such a public face through all of that. and i think it is hard for him as more and more information emerges about his role in this. and the way in which the president leaned on him to just sort of withdraw and try to hide
donald trump jr. to noirg a successf successful, ignoring the impeachment of president trump. the day richard nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day he was subject to impeachment. similarly, during the clinton impeachment, rudy giuliani made clear where he stood on the matter of avoiding subpoenas. the watergate litigation resolved the fact that the president is not above the law, is not able to avoid subpoenas. now that giuliani is enmeshed in the ukraine scandal, however, giuliani has eent made it clear whether he will honor the suspect. the fact that the republican
not only as you re saying not bad faith, but not good faith, but they re willing to fight a subpoena on this all the way to supreme court, but rudy giuliani was a totally different guy i don t know maybe even a year ago but certainly back in 1998. he thought a presidential subpoena in the clinton investigation was totally fine. let me play rudy. all the watergate litigation resolved the fact that the president is not above the law is not able to avoid subpoenas, and the president has a right like anyone else to go before a judge and say this is being done for improper purpose, being done for purposes of harassment. and if a judge agrees with that, fine. but if a judge doesn t then you have to testify. can rudy with a straight face say the opposite? it s unfortunate testimony about the attitude of lawyers, how they shift positions depending upon their client at the time. but i think it would be a mistake to have the president submit to a deposition.
easily he lies and are worried and don t want him being interviewed at all. so you do believe the president, that he wants to? i don t believe, i think it s possible. i don t know if it s true, but it s possible. it s interesting because when president clinton was being investigated, giuliani had a totally difference view about subpoenas and whether they should be applied to presidents. i want to play for you rudy back in 1998. totally different point of view. all the watergate litigation resolved the fact that the president is not above the law. is not able to avoid subpoenas and the president has a right like anyone else to go before a judge and say this is being done for purposes of harassment and if a judge agrees, fine. if he doesn t, then you have to testify. he s changed his mind. i think the 1998 giuliani was entirely right. the nixon tapes case in 1973-74 established very clearly that the president is not above the
investigation. all the watergate litigation resolved the fact that the president is not above the law. is not able to avoid subpoenas. and yet you look right now, steve schmidt, at what giuliani isaying and what trump is saying, it s straight out of the frost/nixon interviews thatit not breaking the law because the president does it. there is no constitutiona basis in fact for this. there is no constitutional basis in fact that as giuliani said this past weekend that donald trump could assassinate an fbi director and not be indicted. of course. so rudy giuliani, his debasement, his servility towards donald trump at a moment where this country needs heroes that s correct. and he was a hero. he was an american hero. and to see the debasement of giuliani in service to this corruption and the debasement of