safety and security of the american people. john, pentagon ordered this new object be taken down over alaska. the president ordered it. president ordered it. a fair take away the pentagon regrets not taking down the first balloon before it crossed the entire u.s.? i m not going to speak for the pentagon. i can tell you the president does not regret the way we handled the first balloon. first of all, apples and oranges in terms of size. the size of a small car and over very sparsely populated area and critically, it was over water, water space, when we ordered this down as we did the last one. but completely different size. and the debris field for this we expect to be much, much smaller than would have been for the other one. that s difference 1. difference 2, we knew the prc
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your ally? we send a balloon through their continent and they don t do anything? one of the first things that happened with the biden administration, they were humiliate by the chinese in anchorage, alaska. they destroyed drones in international waters of ours? 2001 they forced down and rammed a spy plane. they confiscated the plane. in their way of thinking our relationship is asymmetrical and they can do whatever they want. and this administration could have taken this thing down as it approached our air space or water space over t over the ovee
your ally? we send a balloon through their continent and they don t do anything? one of the first things that happened with the biden administration, they were humiliate by the chinese in anchorage, alaska. they destroyed drones in international waters of ours? 2001 they forced down and rammed a spy plane. they confiscated the plane. in their way of thinking our relationship is asymmetrical and they can do whatever they want. and this administration could have taken this thing down as it approached our air space or water space over t over the ovee
debris and everything that you re worried about, but if there is some sort of rescue mission of what may have survived this hit, because this is, as i said, important intelligence for us to know, you are not going to want airplane surveillance over it. so they might be protecting, actually, the water space and not the airspace, which is done often in these rescue missions. so we will see, but that s what i see right now. and as we continue to rerack it and play it again, sometimes you see a little flash, a reflection. so obviously perhaps several pieces involved here. aviation correspondent pete muntean back with us. also, he s a pilot and has great clarity on the kind of aircraft that may have been engaged here. pete, talk to me about the variety of aircraft or if it has been isolated and determined