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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190119:03:15:00

for the house judiciary committee to start holding hearings to establish a record of whether potus committed high crimes. and joy reid, that s a reality now. yeah. and that tweet would have gone to nowhere a year ago or any time last year, because republican control of the house judiciary committee would have meant that tweet wasn t worth wallpaper. but now that kind of momentum is what robert mueller was watching today. yeah. and eventually deciding he had to say something. well, i think in a sense, rarely saying anything, and then coming out and disputing part of the story. but not definitively knocking the story down. i think the most difficult line to maintain in washington right now is the line, we need to wait and see what robert mueller does before we exercise our own independent oversight authority. the house of representatives has every right, and in a sense a duty, to allow the public to understand what s happening here. they have to respect what s going on in rob

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190119:03:08:00

paragraph buried in a sentencing memorandum that was filed by cohen s lawyers in november that specifically says he lied to congress at the direction of client one. which is donald trump. now, there are other parts of what michael cohen said in court that day where he discussed why he lied to congress, where he doesn t say it was did he direction of donald trump. but it s possible that he was under instructions not to say that at that time. we just don t know. but what we do know is that robert mueller is not disputing the entirety of the buzzfeed story. he is, however, disputing this notion that his office has reams of corroborating information. and in fairness, that is one of the things that got everybody s attention about this story, because, you know, the house of representatives is not going to impeach donald trump on the word of michael cohen admitted liar. but if there is other corroboration for members of the trump organization, that s a different matter. and it appears there i

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190119:03:18:00

doing their own internal investigation, is the political, you know, impetus, as you were saying. and he wants what he is doing to be about fact-finding in a certain setting, not in the political setting. that, i think, actually may weigh in favor of parallel impeachment hearings beginning. because mueller s job is not to inform us. he does, and he does it really well. and when you look at his documents, you know those are things he can prove. and i think what made him nervous was exactly what, you know, was in that tweet you read from senator murphy, which is, you know, that mueller is sitting on this mountain of evidence that he s not giving us. and i think what mueller is saying is, no, if i had a mountain of evidence, i would be doing something about it. i might have charged someone. but he s also not saying that the allegations aren t true. and so if what we if what the people need now, and we ve gotten to that point, is we need

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190119:06:08:00

and, in fact, there s a paragraph buried in a sentencing memorandum that was filed by cohen s lawyers in november that specifically says he lied to congress at the direction of client one. which is donald trump. now, there are other parts of what michael cohen said in court that day where he discussed why he lied to congress, where he doesn t say it was did he direction of donald trump. but it s possible that he was under instructions not to say that at that time. we just don t know. but what we do know is that robert mueller is not disputing the entirety of the buzzfeed story. he is, however, disputing this notion that his office has reams of corroborating information. and in fairness, that is one of the things that got everybody s attention about this story, because, you know, the house of representatives is not going to impeach donald trump on the word of michael cohen admitted liar. but if there is other corroboration for members of the trump organization, that s a different matter

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190119:06:15:00

of whether potus committed high crimes. and joy reid, that s a reality now. yeah. and that tweet would have gone to nowhere a year ago or any time last year, because republican control of the house judiciary committee would have meant that tweet wasn t worth wallpaper. but now that kind of momentum is what robert mueller was watching today. yeah. and eventually deciding he had to say something. well, i think in a sense, rarely saying anything, and then coming out and disputing part of the story. but not definitively knocking the story down. i think the most difficult line to maintain in washington right now is the line, we need to wait and see what robert mueller does before we exercise our own independent oversight authority. the house of representatives has every right, and in a sense a duty, to allow the public to understand what s happening here. they have to respect what s going on in robert mueller s

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