that was 9 1/2 months ago. is it any clearer now what that strategy is? no, and there really isn t much separate from what the justice department is doing which is trying to use the power that they have in the courts to try to overturn some of the state laws that have passed, and you put up on the screen some really important changes that we ve seen on the really local level which with voting, that matters a lot. but if you take it up a few no no no notches just to the state level, i spent time in georgia, in arizona, in texas, with state legislatures, particularly republicans, who almost to a person admitted to me that the reason why they have changed the laws in their states isn t necessarily because there was widespread fraud. they admitted there really wasn t widespread fraud. it s because of the lie that the
twice-impeached ex-president s outrageous claim. president trump is wrong. i had to right to overturn the election. the presidency belongs to the american people and the american people alone. and frankly, there is no idea more un-american than the notion that any one person could choose the american president. also yesterday the republican national committee overwhelmingly voted to censure representatives liz cheney and adam kinzinger. both republicans. the rnc cited their work as members of the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection as the reason they ve been marginalized by their own party. this is what the republican party has been reduced to. it s a party without a platform that exists right now to place a disgraced and failed politician in the front and center. there s never been an effort to uncover widespread fraud in the
2020 election because there wasn t widespread fraud in the 2020 election. it s been proved over and over again in courts, by recourt, by secretaries of state. this has always been the preservation of one man s fragile ego. and with me is someone who knows that man and his fragile ego very well. for more than a decade, michael cohen served as trump s fixer before they parted ways. in 2018 he pleaded guilty to a series of crimes he did on trump s behave. he s the author of the big disloyal michael cohen joins me now. michael, good to see you this morning, thank you for being with us. good to see you. i m hoping they don t end up banning disloyal and my podcast from that list of ali velshi books that are going to be banned. if they do we ll put you on
nation caucus. the big winner that night was ted cruz, trump came in a close and respectable second place. but because he s donald trump he began making bogus accusations about the iowa caucus. he tweeted it was rigged, there was fraud involved and the state should redo the election because he didn t like the outcome. the 2016 iowa caucus was the first time donald trump was a candidate for any election of any kind. six years later, trump is the same man he was back then. repeating the same tired and baseless lies. except this time the election delusion that he conjured up is eroding democracy nationwide. it s causing turmoil within his own party. the rift between donald trump and his vice president, mike pence, spilled out into the open this week. last sunday donald trump issued a statement which he declared that pence, quote, could have overturned the election. yesterday the former vice president responded to the
and you talked about jeff clark, the assistant attorney general at environment and civil, who was more eager than some of the other leadership at doj to helph president trump find evidence of fraud. what was the evidence that he was pursuing and who was he talking to, to seek out that evidence? there is one exchange in the emails that we got yesterday where he talks about, where the acting attorney general jeff rosen says, did you talk to b.j. pak? we know from our reporting that he wanted mr. pak to explain to mr. clark that there wasn t widespread fraud in georgia and that he should back off. that this was a fool s errand. instead, mr. clark responds to mr. rosen in his email, no i spoke with the source, i m on with the guy who took the video right now.