sean picas served over 15 years on manslaughter, turned his life around, is executive director for hudson link for higher education in prison, providing education and life skills to incarcerated men and women, helping then re-enter society. lawrence barkley spent 27 years in prison. he s the director of a publication news inside for the marshall project, a nonprofit news organization focusing on the u.s. criminal justice system. lawrence and sean both did time here at sing sing. that brings us to michael capra, for 17 years superintendent of this facility after a long and impressive career in law enforcement. great to see all of you. superintendent, thank you for hosting us here. your job here as the superintendent, essentially to keep the lid on, make sure everyone s safe, make sure your employees get home safe at the end of the day. you realized that wasn t thuf and programs were necessary. what do you find the more programs, the more occupational things that you can do here, how