a crash in long island and contacts american airlines. i got one of the chief pilots in new york. and it wasn t the wasn t the ideal way of telling me, but i said was ed the pilot and they said yes. a devastating loss of life. a horrible scene in a residential neighborhood. looks like a war zone. it s just terrible. just two months after 9/11, people were wondering could this be another terrorist attack? everyone should remain calm. we talked to the white house several times. there is air cover. in this climate, the ntsb works to find the reason the tail of the plane broke off. coming up, outrage over the official cause of the crash of american airlines flight 587. we know a place where tossing and turning
disconnecting, and i m a cop, i ve been a cop for 35 years. i conduct federal raids with the heroes of law enforcement in texas. in every instance where there s violence somebody s high on something. but they re not always in possession of a firearms. they do it with buicks and bricks and fire and chainsaws and pipes. what about the guy that shot gaby giffords wasn t high. so it wasn t the no, but he was mentally deranged. my point about the thread of your argument is you re saying there s a difference, isn t there? you re saying guns should be made freely available. right? well, no, there needs to be restrictions. let me put something to you. if you think it s wrong, tell me. they should be made available with some restrictions, but not many from the gun lobby arguments i ve read. which i ve the reason is if you made them available they d all be freely available anyway. but with drugs you say do not make them freely available, make them illegal, even though you know
this for so long until you had to confront it to help him. i was called to the school one day. this was while his grandfather was president of the united states. i saw him on the stairs crying. he said is grandpa really my grandpa? the kids had been teasing him because he was so proud of his grandfather being president. i get caught up in this. what happened was they were teasing him that he wase wasn t the he really wasn t the grandchild of the president of the united states of america. it decimated him to think he wasn t ronald reagan s grandson. the kids were teaching him because i was adopted. therefore i was a true reagan, so quit telling us your grandfather is the president of the united states. you have got to watch the children and the parent who talk to their children. when a child comes home, what is
for leading the way on this hugely important story. now here to help us drill down on the father-son swap, benjamin barber and long-time adviser to saif gadhafi when he was viewed as the rational person, not the crazy person he s become. and ben urgen. you know safe perhaps better than anybody in the west. would he accept a transitional role? or would he have to assume the mantle of the entirety of his father s power? well, we make predictions, eliot, we have to look at the past. he s twice been offered major roles in the libyan government and both times turned them down saying he would take no role that wasn t the result of elections. now here s another opportunity. this is my surprimise that he s thinking of a transitional role, working on something he s worked on for seven year, a transition
through that whole phalanx? thinking that maybe possibly we could survive. but you know, john, you get to that point at which you re fighting, you re losing energy, you re losing that fight, and i was just at that edge. i think mostly adrenaline, but you know, i ve got a lot to live for, you know? i was not ready to die that day. i ve got a beautiful wife and a loving family. i just wanted to get back. when they got to the hospital, they were treated by a relatively young and compassionate hospital staff who kept apologizing for the treatment that they had endured on the streets. but that wasn t the that wasn t the end of the story. in fact it was about to take a whole new bizarre twist and martha, we ll have that part of the story for you coming up in the next hour. martha: and that part is stunning. john, thank you very much for being with for speaking with them. it s hard for us to watch here, knowing these gentlemen and the unbelievable work that they do. so thank you for b