oppression and apartheid. it took nelson mandela to walk out on the pitch with the world cup of rugby with the jersey on and to go and shake each man s hand and to reconcile right there and then. and that sort of solved it. i mean, you can deal with it in different ways. that s the tradition of the sport. that was a sport which wasn t popular among black south africans. it was popular. it was a symbol of white racist oppression. i want to ask lanny a question. l lanny, there was an issue with the florida seminoles. florida state seminoles. okay. the caveat i don t know sports. the seminoles are actually the name of a native american tribe as opposed to redskins. and they actually came onboard with the team and actually consulted with the team. the difference is i m not taking a position here. i m not really a sports fan. but is that this is not a name
and that sort of solved it. i mean, you can deal with it in different ways. that s the tradition of the sport. that was a sport which wasn t popular among black south africans. it was popular. it was a symbol of white racist oppression. i want to ask lanny a question. lanny, i m from florida and there was an issue with the florida seminoles. florida state seminoles. okay. the caveat i don t know sports. the seminoles are actually the name of a native american tribe as opposed to redskins. and they actually came onboard with the team and actually consulted with the team. the difference is i m not taking a position here. i m not really a sports fan. but is that this is not a name of a tribe, this is jeff to your point, this is a slur. but my point was, what the seminoles did with the university did was reach out to the tribe, negotiate something that was acceptable to them. because they had issues with this thing.