invariably someone who wasn t perry s client got up in court and said i can t stand it anymore, i did it. unless you have that, you don t have good evidence. shout out to perry mason. right. the best evidence of what trump was doing is the horrified reaction of the non-partisan individuals who are working for the civil service. right. wasn t just one. wasn t just two. it was people saying oh, my goodness, and to some degree they re drawing the inferences that all of us should have drawn. that s why on the show we ve tried to report out some of that evidence which is the judiciary committee is having a lawyerly debate on the legal committee about what these things are. they can hash it out. as you remind everyone, it was a whistleblower. it was cia folks. it was nsa folks all saying woah, we can t do this. we don t abuse the power, military and otherwise of the united states government to take
they didn t contend with any of the arguments. and what argument they made for the most part was that democrats hate 63 million americans. i couldant believe this. having studied other impeachments, i m accustomed to a certain level of constitutional can discussion. i m not talking about i m just talking about contending with the real gravity of the moment. the idea and it wasn t just one. congressman jim jordan made this argument. they said that democrats hate 63 million americans. that show as contempt, a contempt for the constitution frrks the nature of this issue. how do we put this the to context? what we arer seeing today, i m afraid is a consequence in the
supposed to be a really solemn moment in our history and there was really no debate. and as frank mentioned, the republicans were making an argument that in large measure this whole process is part of a three-year attempt to remove a president. they didn t contend with any of the arguments, and what argument they made for the most part was that democrats hate 63 million americans. i couldn t believe this. i miean, now, having studied other impeachments, i m accustomed to a certain level of constitutional discussion. i m not talking about our abstract constitutional discussion. i m just talking about contending with the real gravity of the moment. the idea, and it wasn t just one, i mean, it was, i believe congressman jim jordan made this argument, congressman kelly armstrong made this argument,
kind of reaction you have received from fellow republicans or just folks you talk to since saying that you support impeaching the president? well, i don t want to overstate it, anderson. i think a lot of people don t quite know what to say to me. but i was on a plane i m here in san francisco, and i stood outside waiting for my colleague to get off the plane. and i had a number of people come up and thank me. they say, we want to thank you for what you ve been doing for our country. and it wasn t just one. it was a number. and i don t know if it just has to do with what i ve said about impeachment or the fact that i ve tried to say that we ought to have people come together and all this fighting and everything, this doesn t make any sense, and we all need to be participating in healing this country. but people are very, very kind, very generous. now, i was on a radio show on friday night, and we had a lot of calls. and they were all attacking me, but that comes with the territory d
about big change, a new book just out. governor, i do want to start out by asking, i m wondering what kind of reaction you have received from fellow republicans or just folks you talk to since saying that you support impeaching the president? well, i don t want to overstate it, anderson. i think a lot of people don t quite know what to say to me. but i was on a plane i m here in san francisco, and i stood outside waiting for my colleague to get off the plane. and i had a number of people come up and thank me. they say, we want to thank you for what you ve been doing for our country. and it wasn t just one. it was a number. and i don t know if it just has to do with what i ve said about impeachment or the fact that i ve tried to say that we ought to have people come together and all this fighting and everything, this doesn t make any sense, and we all need to be participating in healing this country. but people are very, very kind, very generous. now, i was on a radio show on frida