and it s not a roving mandate to be a fact gatherer for the benefit of anybody, including congress. neal, i want you to respond. i mean, the ridiculousness of this, someone like robert mueller needs to be reminded that nobody voted for him. i mean, that s inane. obviously he knows that. this is one of our most distinguished public servants around. and by the way, it wasn t just mueller showing up one day and saying, hey, i would like to investigate the president. the president s own guy, rodstein, who was appointed by donald trump, named mueller to that position. so the idea that this is like some sort of creation out of thin air, i think, is ridiculous. and that proof is in the pudding. you ve had now 37 different indictments, including the president s national security adviser going to jail and other people like that. so this is like this is a very serious thing. this is not mueller just going off on his own. i think i would add one other thing.
to be a fact gatherer for the benefit of anybody, including congress. neal, i want you to respond. i mean, the ridiculousness of this, someone like robert mueller needs to be reminded that nobody voted for him. i mean, that s inane. obviously he knows that. this is one of our most distinguished public servants around. and by the way, it wasn t just mueller showing up one day and saying, hey, i would like to investigate the president. the president s own guy, rodstein, who was appointed by donald trump, named mueller to that position. so the idea that this is like some sort of creation out of thin air, i think, is ridiculous. and that proof is in the pudding. you ve had now 37 different indictments, including the president s national security adviser going to jail and other people like that. so this is like this is a very serious thing. this is not mueller just going off on his own. i think i would add one other thing. the special counsel here acts pursuant to the regulations,
in the southern district, there was a magistrate, a judge to look into is this. so it wasn t just mueller on his own deciding to do this tbut i m talking about the political public which is ultimately what all these things come down to, right? you re sort of i think up to this point mueller s been very tight on this stuff. this is a dramatic move. that s not speculation. we all believe this is dramatic. this is serious. if you don t find something, if you go to these lengths or find something that s not that big of a deal, and, you know, it s been raised to this level, i believe the public s credibility starts to turn against mueller because they re saying what are you doing? this has been going on for over a year, this has nothing to do with russian collusion, this has nothing to do with russians getting on facebook, you re going after the president s personal lawyer and not finding anything. i want to ask, though, he didn t refer and say you are to do x, y, and z with this.
you re saying he s betting on something. i don t know what a bet is. okay, look he s doing his job. maybe he doesn t know he s betting. i m tell you, maybe he didn t know it. he s risked the credibility of his investigation by going this far and this aggressively and this dramatically because if he doesn t find something, the rest of what he s trying to do he may find something later. the president is going to be able to credibly say they went after my personal lawyer, tried to get into my privilege with my lawyer and they didn t find anything? that s going to have credibility with the american people. doesn t that negate what we were hearing earlier, it wasn t just mueller, he referred it, then there was the u.s. attorney in the southern district, there was a magistrate, a judge to look into this. so it wasn t just mueller on his own deciding to do this but i m talking about the political public which is ultimately what all these things come down to, right? you re so