saying i know you think this, but i am not saying eat no, i m saying eat less meat, eat fewer animal products, eat less expensive protein, less expensive nutrients and then you don t have this problem. amanda? kerry was talking about how pink slime has been demonized and as sort of this public campaign that sort of it was there but we didn t notice it for a while. but the way that it made it into meat, too, wasn t it also the well-funded campaign, this is cheaper, it won t hurt you by monsanto and other companies, isn t that how it got there in the first place? it got there in the first place as a way to make more dangerous cuts from a bacterial perspective, more dangerous cuts of meat safer, so it wasn t a way of extracting those cuts of meat producing ground beef with those cuts of meat and making it safe without treating it with
your movement has been distinguished for its nonviolent approach, but your people are under great pressures in many cases. how much do you fear the pursue of negro violence in the pursuit of negro rights? this is an echo of the specter because, you know, there s this again, i m not a neutral arbiter in this, i think that everything that was done by people focusing on the arrest was sort of squarely within the bounds of calling for justice, right? i do think part of the problem in the way the case has developed because in an sense of an arrest that, yes, cable news and the media does rush in to try the case, right? right. the whole point is that should being done in a court of law and now it s done in a court of law and that s basically a victory. it doesn t give us much to talk about, but that s sort of like well, it is a victory because it should have been done from the get-go and the fact that it wasn t done from the get-go reveals a powerful, you know, example of the c
yes. is that you shouldn t be eating lousy food, but everyone says well not everybody can afford to shop at whole foods. there is a middle ground. there is something healthier than pink slime that is not shopping in the organic section of your supermarket and it s called normal food, real food, regular food, not highly processed food. define that. even if we wanted to say in the meat world there are cuts of animals that are obviously preferable to the cheapness, most highly treated meat possible. but the problem the problem with getting into the cost or not the problem, the opportunity of getting into the cost discussion is if you are going to say we need to eat 160 pounds of meat a year is that the average? which is the average per capita in the united states and nearly 300 pounds of animal product a year, we ll have to produce it the way we re producing it now because there is no alternative. the only alternative is really to eat less, and i m not
passed along to the consumers, and not only that but the tobacco companies are also the ones who are supporting our schip programs as well. so, at this point they are paying for it as a result. so, until, you know trillions of people are not dying as a result. exactly. the point is that is a confluence of public pressure, public health campaigns, regulation and all sort of state regulation. mark, i want to sort of give you the last word on this issue about regulation. you did. you ll have to write another column and we ll have you back on the show. this is what you do for a living. you have too much knowledge. okay. what s the question? the question the question is about where how we start thinking about regulating this industry in a way that gets us to the middle place. that s what i think is interesting, because, you re right, we have the two polls either eating things wrong or buying the $9 tomato.
case i think has exploded to the national consciousness because the way that racial bias manifests itself and suspicion, because of the gun laws and the criminal justice system arbitrating it. but nosing around the world of the case and particularly the stand your ground laws, there are lots of incidents of shootings around stand your ground laws that go in a bunch of different directions in terms of the racial composition of the shooter and the victim, but all of which are sort of scary in so far as you have an incident which someone ends up dead and no one is arrested. absolutely. but it s the exception that proves the rule. the reality is you take as a subsection all cases of murder that are committed by a member of one race against another, the stand your ground law certainly has exceptional iterations, but the reality is overall, black people who are victims are not treated fairly, equally, and not seen as quite as human as those who are not. michael, are you referring to, say