the midst of our middle east. at this time, the palestinian refugee situation from the 48 war is not resolved. there were three kinds of palestinian refugees at that time. west bank, gaza, and then there were the palestinians who were living inside israel who stayed there after the 1948 war. many palestinians are still longing to go back to their homes. they are still carrying the keys to their homes and of course in jerusalem. jerusalem, itself, was divided between israel and jordan, which was the result of the war in 1948. jerusalem was a berlin-like divided city in most of the areas, it wasn t a wall. it was mounds of barbed wire. and when jordan occupied the old city of jerusalem, the jews
east. at this time, the palestinian refugee situation from the 48 war is not resolved. there were three kinds of palestinian refugees at the time, west bank, gaza, and then there were the palestinians who were living inside israel who stayed there after the 1948 war. many palestinians are still longing to go back to their homes. they re still carrying the keys to their homes in haifa and yaffa, and of course in jerusalem. jerusalem itself was divided between israel and jordan, which was the result of the war in 1948. jerusalem was a berlin-like divided city. in most of the areas it wasn t a wall. it was mounds of concertina barbed wire. and when jordan occupied the old city of jerusalem, the jews were not allowed in the city,
of $8.6 billion for a wall, that s a six times the investment based on what the president got this year on a deterrent policy that we know doesn t work and deterrence got us to the man made family separation crisis that the trump administration put into place. we know 2800 kids who were separated officially during the zero tolerance period, but hhs pointed out how there might be thousands more children who were separated before the trump administration started that deterrent policy officially when jeff sessions announced it and now it turns out dana from the southern district of california and the judge down here has said that the trump administration must add those thousands of children to this list of the overall separated numbers. that could bring the numbers up to 3,000, 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 and we don t know because we don t have the accounting from the government as to how many children were separated in advance of the policy.
getting to that shortly. kristen welker, gene sperling, good to see you again and jacob soboroff thanks for all of your reporting on all of these extraordinary developments regarding the separated children. thank you. a texas democratic congressman that serves on the ways and means committee joins me now. congressman, thank you very much. what do we know about first of all, your reaction to the budget, the $8.6 billion. is there any appetite in congress to approve that kind of money for a border wall? not at all, andrea. you know, the president is obsessed with this wall. he even claimed that in san antonio that i represent there wasn t a wall. it s an imaginary place. we can t find it anywhere and it s as imaginary as the crisis he s created. is there any money in the budget for this priority even if he thought it were a priority? well, unless you want to
medicaid cuts in here. over $200 billion in food and nutrition support and when you have a ten which i think it will be, not five, but 10% across the board that will hit everything people care about from cancer and alzheimer s research to headstart funding. so i think that also this is part of trump s strategy of diverting the shiny objects from a value structure that i think most of middle america may not support. those are very important signals and a very important reminder from you. jacob soboroff, let s focus on the policy behind the numbers regarding the wall about the administration continuing to separate children and their families long after the courts ordered them to stop. you ve spent so much time, what are the facts here? andrea, i see this court ruling that came down friday evening as directly related to the president s budget request