that would be a red flag? yeah, there s some messages there highly incriminating. one message, for example, you have one party to the message saying, well, you know, this is very problematic for me, the tradele or withholding of aid contingent on this investigation, and then of course of other side is saying, well, there s no actual quid pro quo here. let s take this off-line, let s take this off of text, right? whenever you have people who are suddenly wanting to end the conversation and take it off of text and put it into voice, what that felts you is there s certainly things they didn t want in writing. the implication is that essential everyone needed to get their ducking in a row to say it wasn t a quid pro quo or there wasn t a leveraging of u.s. aid
we were leveraging, our diplomats and rudy giuliani, leveraging these meetings for the president, leveraging these moneys. it seems like we were force-feeding him to do what the president wanted to do relative to the bidens or he wasn t going to get what he was looking for, including the aid. let s just remember when evaluating this aid that president obama withhold the aid indefinitely. so this notion like to withhold the aid is a uniquely impeachable offense i think would be counter to the experience we had under the priesh president. i also think when you look at the text messages you just mentioned, there s additional context. ambassador sumlin, who will be testifying before some members of the house in the coming days, providing analysis that this wasn t a quid pro quo. distinctly the president wasn t interested in a this for that arrangement regarding this military aid and i think that directly answers back the taylor text message remember, taylor was citing a politico articl
saying either because i own you or you own me. the second is of course ukraine. he is parroting, putin is sort of mimicking what trump said, that it wasn t a quid pro quo. ukraine clearly saw it as a quid pro quo. third is our allies. we talk about our enemies all the time. if i m the prime minister of an ally nation right now and i m looking at what trump is doing, i am telling my intelligence agencies, don t share, don t share. and that s going to impact stuff not just related to the election but to counterterrorism, to espionage, all sorts of threats. steve, you have ten seconds, i m sorry. sorry. juliette is absolutely right, she was saying what i would have said. any service out there is not going to want to do business with us. you ve got this weirdness where you have the attorney general and other senior folks showing up and asking questions about the mueller report, which of
at this audience. one is clearly trump which is i am going to parrot what you re saying either because i own you or because you owe me. this is the question of why they have such a relationship. the second is ukraine. putin is mimicking what trump said that it wasn t a quid pro quo. ukraine clearly saw it that way and third is our allies. we talk about our enemies all the time. if i m the prime minister of an ally nation right now and i m looking at what trump is doing, do not i am telling my intelligence agencies, i don t don t share. don t share. i want to get to steve. ten seconds. i m sorry. what do you think of this. sorry. she s absolutely right. she was saying what i would have said. any service out there is not
he just is interested in corruption. you can t do this, you can t go to a foreign leader and say help me get dirt on my political opponent. can t do it for a bunch of different reasons. you also can t hint that you re going to hold up aid and actually have held up aid back in the white house the day before. eric: supporters say there wasn t a quid pro quo. others say it was the previous aid that was held up. he didn t mention money in the he said how good all the things we ve done for you. it s kind of a when you read the transcript, i think leave it to the judgment of the american public about common sense, what was really going on here. but the other thing is they that you don t want a president doing this because they can get compromised. let s assume the russians are listening in on all the ukrainian discussions and they ve tapped the line like most nations do to each other so the russians come to the president of the united states