ak lites are right now. they have shown the country, they ve shown the world exactly what you need to do to avoid a judicial or a congressional subpoena. wow. let me ask you quickly about another big legal story from trump world. it s involving the big lie, according to the documents obtained by the new york times, the president s lawyers knew their claims about the dominion claims were false, and yet they keep making them for weeks. what do you make of that? should there be consequences for that? should this be the end once and for all to the big lie? it s never going to be the end because donald will continue to perpetuate the big lie and these people will continue to go. anybody that is silly enough to believe for a second that this wasn t a lie against dominion voting from day number one, this is typical donald trump playbook, right? attack the system, attack the system, attack the system. and then all you need is to find one vote that is improper, and
there. we re going to go find it, and then when they couldn t find it, they were like it s so well hidden that we re going to have to search in other states, and we re going to have to keep searching. i think that the reporting that steve laid out there is correct. it is about fund-raising in the short-term, but the long-term damage to the integrity of our elections and the faith that we have in our democracy is what every american should be concerned about in this moment because all of this fraudit here on the left side of the screen was based on a lie and it s based on a lie that actually has a dark underbelly because if you really listen to what the republicans are saying, essentially they re very, very concerned about the demographic shifts in the country. when they re going to review the vote of large majority not white counties, they re telling you that these coming demographic shifts are not in their favor, and they want to ensure they re
they had that derangement syndrome. their hatred of donald trump broke down every single aspect of what reporters are actually trained to do here. you don t say things ever that you cannot prove even if you think for sure this story is true. like a lot of times it can be very frustrating for reporters. you are almost certain. if you can t broofsh it, you can t say it. they did the exact opposite here. how could they have any idea where the virus came from? they said it over and over again. they attacked tom cotton and donald trump and saying this was a lie. obviously it was wasn t a lie. we couldn t tell what the truth was back then. bill: how few people were even suggesting it. marc siegel said last hour lab leaks happen all the time. scott gotlieb over the weekend said they have lab leaks every year. but the question then would be what were they doing inside that lab in wuhan, chris? that would be a major
the second time we talked i did not lie to you. after i was arrested, i did not lie to you. i told you i didn t do it. that wasn t a lie. i told you that he did. reporter: he was jermeir stroud. shannon s story made him the guilty party, but her story also badly needed to be checked out. that s just a fantastic kind of story. if i m going to dismiss her case i need to make sure i m filling out the dismissal and i put the reasons why. i m not going to do it just because she says she didn t do it. reporter: shannon and her attorney were emphatic that jermeir was the killer and also said that even now, months after the murder, he was making threatening phone calls to shannon telling her to stay silent about his role. i told him that i m more than willing to look at anything they have if trept to bring me something. but i can t just accept her word for it.
she waited so long to tell it? when i asked her, where was this story when i arrested you? her exact words were, he had threatened my children in the past. i was scared for their safety. he knew how to get to my children. and i asked her, what s changed? he still knows where your children are. he still knows how to get to them. he could still hurt them. reporter: and her answer? she just looked at me. everything i ve told you is the truth. but you lied the first time we talked. yes, i did. the second time we talked. the second time we talked i did not lie to you. after i was arrested, i did not lie to you. i told you i didn t do it. that wasn t a lie. i told you that he did. reporter: he was jermeir stroud. shannon s story made him the guilty party, but her story also badly needed to be checked out. that s just a fantastic kind of story. if i m going to dismiss her case i need to make sure i m filling out the dismissal and i put the