apartment back in 2012. i didn t know he was dating anybody else at the time. so she came out and i was going in. and she made a smart comment to me. what d she say to you? called me a [ bleep ]. ok. and it wasn t a big deal. i didn t really care at the time. i just wanted to get my stuff. and then i left and went home. ok. that s the only time you ve ever seen her in person? yup. reporter: she told detective doty that it was dave who blamed cari for all those
the election wasn t stolen. ashli babbitt may not have been killed and officer sick nick may not have lost his life if that hadn t happened. you write in great detail in your book about what was going on behind the scenes as all of these people were begging trump to tell the rioters to go home. a lot of these people now, obviously, have been fueling the lie and acting as though january 6th wasn t a big deal. were you surprised by the text that liz cheney revealed last night and again today? i spent a lot of time in betrayal trying to reconstruct the hours inside the west wing. what trump was up to. who was reaching out. how he was acting and everything i have been told is that he enjoyed what he was seeing. he saw people finally going to bat and fighting for him as they stormed the capitol. and i had heard, you know, of many people who had called and reached out to him, including people on the ground who tried to get in to see him at the oval office to plead with him to get out a
upset about is that they ve what they ve publicly said ever since. that what happened that day somehow wasn t the fault of donald trump and his allies, that what happened really wasn t a big deal, that all of this is being overhyped. this would be a good time for these hosts to use their platforms to tell the american people the truth. just like they were privately texting mark meadows the truth on that terrible day. that the president s inaction hurt us all. that he should have done more. that he should have pushed to stop the violence. but i have to say, their silence is deafening. i just also want to remind my colleagues what one lawmaker texted to mark meadows after the january 6th attack, let me quote, yesterday was a terrible day. we tried everything we could in our objection to the six states. i m sorry that nothing worked, end quote. think about that. a lawmaker is apologizing for
at that point 63 different courts, federal and state, including the u.s. supreme court, said this election fraud stuff is all nonsense, and yet some of them appear to have given aid and comfort to team coup. you laid that all out. that makes sense. when the meadows defense says, well, this actually wasn t a big deal, that s why they turned it over, what s your response to that? well, i think they had to turn it over because they had no possible claim of privilege whatsoever, because meadows said, i didn t write this document, so he really didn t have anything there. i think the concern, though, among team trump at this point is that these documents don t just paint a picture of what happened on january 6, they also lead to potential criminal liability. last week, ari, on friday, judge dabney frederick, who is a trump appointee, wrote how to prosecute trump and others in
president trump to, quote, condemn this shit, end quote, happening at the capitol. at the end of tonight, i think it s going to be very clear that no one can pretend this wasn t a big deal because these are trump loyalists, republican members of congress, trump administration officials. yeah. i mean, it was an attempted coup. an attempted overthrow of the government. why does meadows seem to be fighting this testimony that they want him to provide so hard given the fact that he initially volunteered much of this information? correct. so his lawyer keeps saying it s about executive privilege. it s very hard to argue executive privilege when you re handing these things over. i think there are two things that are pretty clear to the committee. one is that donald trump does not want meadows to testify. it may also be that meadows being in the room may be