that? well, it s different. you know, if you re familiar with psychosis and bipolar and that sort of thing, you see the ideology of it, you can see the whole thing. it s obvious. and when you pray over them, it doesn t do any good. when you ve got someone who is actually possessed, you start praying over that person and you start seeing these manifestations which are not menial illness, and you go mental illness, and you go, whoa. for example, we ve had people start speaking foreign language, you know, and we had someone recently speaking russian to us and ukrainian, actually, and he didn t know either of those languages. you see lots of things happen. pete: do the people that you help through exorcism realize they were possessed? what s their state of mind afterwards? afterwards, well, you can imagine it s pretty upsetting. i mean, we never use that word, i don t say to someone you re possessed. you don t want to tell somebody
further than al-qaeda to see that. they ve been going for 35 years now, and we ve taken out out heed arer after leader, and it makes leader after leader, and it makes no difference. that s not how we keep our country safe, by having 900 guys in the northeast of syria. we need to get those guys out of harm s way because there are much better ways to keep our country safe. pete: they ve certainly been made a target, no doubt, by iran because of their presence. just a quick follow-up on that, because i m intrigued. they may not be able to defeat isis, but the pentagon s argument would be they re preventing them from reconstituting into an operational force if there are 40-50,000 isis fighters in prisons in syria, and we leave, then maybe they get out and maybe the caliphate comes back. what do you say to that counterargument? yeah, yeah, because i hear that all the time. and, look, i mean, i was worried against this when they started putting them in there, that you had to have a plan
if you got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. almost confirmation bias every piece of intel that came in, people saw through the framing of the assumption he had weapons of mass destruction. even so, it was still a mistake to go to war we had other options it simply wasn t worth it. i thought the idea we were going to bring democracy to iraq was a preposterous pipe dream. so can i ask you, richard, what was the take us back what was the absolute obsession after 9/11 to link saddam hussein, who was the most blood-thirsty leader, who killed more arabs than anybody else in history, but what was the obsession linking saddam hussein to september 11th, when there just wasn t the evidence there well, some people were looking for an excuse to go to war against iraq, so there was either the why trying to link them, or
saddam hussein inquaded kuwait that is analogous to vladimir putin. that s the analogy he took territory through force. he invaded a neighboring country. it s interesting, people say we need bipartisanship. we didn t have bipartisanship, much of it, in the gulf war. we had enormous amounts of bipartisanship in the iraq war, 2003 bipartisanship is not always a guarantee of correctness as we see today. yeah, it was really remarkable you re exactly right there wasn t as much bipartisanship in the 91 war. then you had democrats going into the second iraq war who were afraid to look like they did after the first iraq war that s why, despite all of the attacks that george w. bush took in 2004, you look back and you see that the democratic ticket in 2000 and in 2004, they all
ridiculous given the paper trail. we see the checks signed by donald trump it is hard to say he is being picked on for paying $130,000 in hush money to a porn star and concealing that and using a straw donor, which was cohen, to do that, and saying he s being persecuted somehow when no one has ever done that it is completely ridiculous. chuck, we talked last hour about the case itself, so let s take a quick leap and just say, if an indictment does come down, whether it is this week or next or sometime in the future, walk viewers through what that will look like. there s a lot of confusion, concern, as to how much of it we will actually see in the legal system there in new york city. he s a former president of the united states. what will we how will we be arrested how will he with charged will we see donald trump in handcuffs or perhaps a donald trump mug shot walk us through it. it s good to talk about the procedure, jonathan. first, i don t any he ll be