it has been. it has been exhausting, a lot has transpired. you re at the white house every day. bannon is out, but there s deep wounds that are far from being healed right now. yeah. and this is from everything that s unfolded in charlotte yeah. there are deep wounds. and i m going to start with this, don. i ve been watching the coverage all day. charlottesville, i could say, sorry. yeah, no problem. but i ve been watching the coverage all day. you know, with the bannon firing, bannon is spinning this, and those who are in the bannon camp are spinning this like it s a great thing, he s got his hands on the weapons. but he was fired. we have to remember he was fired. and when you re fired and when you leave the white house, you don t have the power you once wielded. well, typically you don t. we ll see what happens. but he is not in that inner circle. we know that there was a back and forth between a negative back and forth between bannon and jared kushner, the son-in-law
because it expressed what trump really believed. also trump has been deserted by so many parts of the american mainstream, including corporate leaders, as you said tonight even an evangelical leader stepped off his counsel and he s alienated a lot of mainstream republicans, including mitch mcconnell. his loyal base are people who read breitbart, who agree with steve bannon and see him as a leader. so the power will remain outside the white house and trump already listens to breitbart news more than anything. is this the white house trying to change the narrative that trump is a racist? i don t think that s going to succeed. trump is great at creating spectacle and new dramatic events. that is the narrative. it s going to continue the narrative and we re going to see it reinforced by bannon and breitbart international in this new line.
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this populist nationalist agenda he talked about and he will be more successful doing that at breitbart now knowing what he knows from having worked in the white house and having worked with trump. as to who he goes after, it s not just republicanis on the hil and establishment republicans, what he might call globalists, it will also include some people in the white house. for me if i m jared kushner right now, you know, i m probably pretty scared given the fact that bannon and breitbart are going to be going after folks like him. josh, it is, as i said, a sword that cuts both ways. it s a double-edge sword because he wields power at breitbart with the alt-right. the president let the fox into the hen house. he let the alt-right into the oval office. bannon has maybe more power outside of the white house than he does inside. well, we ll see. i think he is certainly influence, i should say. we ll see. i think you may be right, but he
camp are spinning this like it s a great thing, he s got his hands on the weapons. but he was fired. we have to remember he was fired. and when you re fired and when you leave the white house, you don t have the power you once wielded. well, typically you don t. we ll see what happens. but he is not in that inner circle. we know that there was a back and forth between a negative back and forth between bannon and jared kushner, the son-in-law of the president of the united states. we also know that there was a concern about bannon being one of the problems of leaking. so bannon and his supporters are spinning this like it is a win. but this is not a win. but typically when you leave the white house, you don t have the, i guess, the power, the washington power that you once wielded. and also there is a concern and they re spinning this because they don t want that base, that