and and the treasury department in washington? we know it had to go up the chain in cincinnati at this office but there are reports that some of this was getting bounced back to washington for secondary review. paul: kim, what about the white house response to this. the basic point is, we didn t want to interfere with an investigation so we took hands off. nobody told the president. president didn t need to know. does that pass to the kred battle test? no. this week was all about the white house shifting stories who knew what and when. increasingly the press and congress is saying, it s what you knew and didn t do over the past two years. reality is if you have a president and a campaign team that themselves back in 2008 were often as a campaign were