this kind of pushback. there was a vote in the house, a lot of republicans supported it. over in the senate, senator lindsey graham along with chris holland, a democrat from mayor maryland, are creating a bill that would impose heavier sanctions on turkey and erdogan than the white house imposed. i think lindsey graham says he might be able to get 80 votes for this. what it adds up to is finally the trump foreign policy approach and agenda is getting puckback from official washington. i think that s a good sign for the president at this point. you watch it to what we ve seen about ukraine. it s piling up and you feel people are pulling back a little bit from the president s foreign policy. paul: tremendous dysfunction, i can t remember in my time covering washington that there was this kind of lack of even political decorum of even the most basic kind between a president and a house speaker. well, look, can we be
great example, the lack of faith right now in the department of justice and the fbi and i cite polls in the book, pointing outs ther pointie huge numbers of americans that no longer trust the fbi to do the right thing. paul: this goes back to the 2016 campaign attempt and we think there was misuse of the fisa court for example to investigate the trump campaign. directly related to jim comey, the decision to launch a counter intelligence investigation into a sitting presidential campaign. that alone inspired a lot of americans to forget whether or not what kind of abuse of the president, just that. also take our senate confirmation process in the wake of brett kavanaugh. you ve watched washington as long as i have paul: longer. where do we go from here? hour most recently, we were talking about this earlier in the show, this potential that
you re now using impeachment as a partisan political tool. i keep telling my friends on the left, let s say joe biden wins the election next year but republicans take back the house. do we really want an environment where the first thing they do is launch articles of impeachment? paul: now, you know, you i covered the board hearings way back when so these supreme court fights have been horrible for a long time. oh, yeah, they re nasty. paul: how much of this he predates trump? i remember a lot of democrats saying george w. bush wasn t legitimate because of the al gore fights and how much of this is actually unique to trump? well, i think you have to say some of it s unique to trump. obviously we ve always had physician afisticuffs in wash a. washington. have we ever had a situation where the federal democracy is leaking information on a daily basis. paul: do you think that s happened to a greater degree
surprised really? they re sitting down at a table and they re facing off and a he s looking at this woman who has commenced an impeachment inquiry into him. it just says something about the toxic nature of that event and how we are unlikely to have any comedy, any civility or any progress on any issue in washington. paul: if you re the president, shouldn t your goal here be to marshall a defense on impeachment and then separate that out from your agenda and be able to and put pressure on nancy pelosi and say all right, you re going to do impeachment but let s what are you going to do for the american people? are you going to pass the usmca agreement? are you going to do something on the rest of your ayou jen da or not? agenda or not? you see brief moments where he seems to be interested in doing that. a couple weeks ago he gave a speech on health care and said look, the democrats are not doing anything for you here. we need to make fixes and changes, here s what i m doing, puttin