elizabeth warren highly as a chance. warren could be a pain who rarely saw the line between right and self-righteousness. it gave them nightmares worrying what she might be up to at her office. could they trust her? that was a warren dynamic, and also could it be governor whitmer before he got to harris? warren, of course, biden spent a lot of time talking to her even before the 2020 campaign, back to 2016, or even 2015 when biden was thinking about getting into the 2016 race, and i reported in the book he had gotten very close to saying to elizabeth warren outright, why don t you just be my running mate and he continued over the 2016 race to say, she would have been great if i had run, she would have been with me, urging, saying hillary clinton should have picked warren as the running mate and when it gets to 2020 as biden last summer is thinking about a running mate, he was very drawn
rhetoric. it s very dangerous. the issue about medicare for all and particularly the eliminating fracking on day one which attacks blue collar, middle class american workers, you can t walk that back. so i agree, she s in for a tough fight to try to claim that. but bernie sanders wouldn t even try to claim. liz warren would, i think, make that argument ed: let s talk more about that sanders/warren dynamic and who s the real socialist, who s the real progressive. politico magazine talking about aoc s sanders endorsement won t change 2020, they say, but it might change the democratic party. this is a signal from the young guns in the democratic party to elizabeth warren that you re not progressive enough and that bernie sanders is the real deal. what say you? i read the article, and i think it was very smart thing for aoc, because don t believe bernie s campaign s going anywhere, but he has a lot of money, a lot of energy, a lot of young voters really backed up. but if that goes away
of this country, the corporate elite, enough is enough with your greed, with your corruption. we need real change in their country. this sanders/warren dynamic, this rivalry is something we ve always been keeping a close eye on, perhaps more so now. is there any expectation of how that s going to play out on tuesday night? yeah, i think you re seeing the signs that in some ways, the nays are going to be out for elizabeth warren. she s been rising really steadily in the polls. but for bernie sanders, the issue is so critical because she attracts some of the same voters who were attracted to him in the last election. so, but with warren, you know, rising all around, i think not just bernie sanders, but you re going to see some of the more moderate candidates going after her as well. i m not big on predictions, but i think that one is going to be one that i m willing to stand by going into tuesday, alex. all right, you re going to have an interesting time out there in columbus, ohio