well enough to take a call from him and ask him about the investigations you wanted from ukraine. holmes statement continues on. he says i then took the opportunity to ask sondland for the prefz s views on ukraine. in particular i asked plrd sondland if it was true if the president did not give an s or ish about ukraine. well, ambassador sondland agreed that the president did not give a ish about ukraine. i asked why not and ambassador sondland stated the president only cares about big stuff. i noted that was big stuff going on in ukraine like a war a russia. and he replied big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation that mr. giuliani was pushing. the conversation then moved onto other topics. that really couldn t be more clear.
the president only cares about big stuff that benefits him. like that biden investigation he wanted. and ambassador sondland had already assured the president that zelensky would do anything you ask him to do. remember holmes says two staffers were there at the table sharing that bottle of wine on the restaurant terrace when that phone call happened. and if the president s voice was loud as holmes says, it seems like they heard all of this, too. holmes also says after that lunch he immediately told the deputy chief of mission and others at the embassy about the call and repeatedly referred to it in meetings. so it sounds like there s a lot of people there are a lot of people who know what was said on that phone call. let s not forget ambassador sondland who already amended his closed door testimony when his memory suddenly got better after reading the testimony from bill taylor and top russia advisor
and the timing of it is right after that call where you heard zelensky say he had mentioned that the president brought up sensitive issues no less than three times. and the conversation he writes then shifts away from a discussion about withholding essentially military aid in an investigation with zelensky. they then shift to talking about the rapper asap rocky who s being held. and the kardashians. crazy, crazy. so after that sondland talks to the president, holmes details this. he says i asked ambassador sondland if it was true the president did not give a you know what ish about ukraine. ambassador sondland agreed that the president did not give an s about ukraine. and i noted there was big stuff going on in ukraine like a war with russia. and ambassador sondland replied that he meant big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation that mr.