humanity, the answer cannot be sanctions. and if they are to be sanctions, then they need to be against russia s oil and gas. that is why you see former soviet states have they have sanctioned russian oil and gas because this is something they really understand. but the rest of europe, i get that it s hard, but they re going to really to have to move to that and secondary sanctions are what we can do here in the united states to really further embolden the entire world to pressure them. the stalling is honestly because it will be hard for europe. they need to find other sources. they need to make other infrastructure to receive oil and gas from those other sources. so they re going to face major price inflation both for oil and gas and for their other goods. so i get it, but it s important. yulia, we re having this conversation has russia has put a new commander in charge of its military operations in ukraine, general dvornikov, a track record of overseeing cruel war tactics in syr
ukrainians tried to hit the convoy a couple of times but it s not really moving. so the russians trying to regroup. just as they are regrouping on this broader scale in their ukraine war campaign, in their invasion. you ve had these initial moves. but now the pentagon believes it s in a deeper, darker, second phase. the bombardment of cities, population centers, russia moving heavy weapons in basically the kind of destructive tactics they used years ago in chechnya, stalin-like war tactics. the anti-air, anti-tank weapons that the coalition is giving to ukraine will be a good attempt to hold the russians off. the pentagon view is, make no mistake, they have massive a lot
in our world lead, the horrifying images of the russian attack on the maternity and children s hospital in mariupol, ukraine, may have shocked some but it does seem to follow a familiar pattern of russia s appalling war tactics. in 2019 russia bombed four hospitals in syria in the span of just 12 hours, according to an extensive new york times story. under assad and putin over a ten-year period, there were 600 attacks on at least 350 separate medical facilities. almost 1,000 medical workers killed in total. recently it wasn t just the attack in mariupol, ukraine. on february 24th, the ukrainian head of the donesk region said a russian strike injured six medical workers when the russians struck just outside a hospital there. earlier this month, the kyiv independent reported that russian missiles struck near another maternity hospital. this is what putin does on
strong. so even if they do, even if the belarusian soldiers are made to cross the border and walk into ukraine, i doubt that this will be a force that ukraine will really have to reckon with. and i m pretty sure that most of the belarusian soldiers will just be very happy to lay down their arms and to be taken hostage by the ukrainian military. given the success that ukrainian forces have had on the ground against russian forces, are you concerned that russia may just try to do to kyiv what they have been doing to mariupol? essentially just try to destroy the city? that is one of the most difficult questions that i have heard over the last weeks. and unfortunately, i have to answer that yes. russia, the war tactics they are employing, they are absolutely barbaric. some call it in the formal
responding to russia s worsening aggression and their war tactics. we ll have a report with the latest on his agenda in a couple minutes. we want to begin with new information out of mariupol. city council officials reporting hundreds of elderly refugees, women, children, are trapped under the rubble after russian forces bombed an art school that had been converted into a shelter. nbc s ali arouzi is in lviv reporting on this. good to talk to you once again. president zelenskyy has now accused russia of war crimes. what are we knowing, what are we learning about this latest attack? that s right, yasmin. he s accused them of war crimes, he s accused them of deliberately targeting civilians. last week, he said his heart is broken by what the russians are doing to mariupol, and it is a desperate situation there, as every day passes it seems to get worse and worse. so the latest news, as you mentioned, out of mariupol is that the russians bombed an art