important questions about the p that relationship are not about china. they re about the united states and whether we invest ourselves as a nation. as the member of the china select committee, i would say if you want to outcompete china in 20 years, invest in science and basic research. don t cut it as they are proposing to do. support ukraine against not a autocrat. don t cut funding for ukraine as they re proposing to do. and don t usher in a disastrous second trump administration. you and i have both visited taiwan in recent weeks and months, observed preparations there to defend in the event china were able to invade. what is your assessment of the likelihood of a chinese invasion of taiwan? do you see it as imminent? do you see it as a matter of when as opposed to if? i m not going to be a war
absolutely come i think you do. you take proper account of the ways in which you pursue high-minded goals. you stick to them. if you make a huge moral issue and back off a bit when you need it, that will result the saudis and they will not return your phone call. that is not serving a moral interest and it s not serving america s interest. we went that is exactly right. we are a force in the world because we are rich and can afford to be. but they are not rich if we are. so if we d chip jeopardize affluence, we jeopardize to make the world better obviously. i wish you were running a state department, thank you. rico thanks, tucker. tucker: nancy pelosi has been in congress since the beginning of time. what we didn t know his and her free time, she is a strategic war strategist and not making battle plans in ukraine. you have to pay if you want to get popcorn. we will show you after the
the us secretary of state antony blinken has held talks with his ukrainian counterpart in the last few hours, looking for any possible diplomatic route to ending the war. so, is a diplomatic settlement even possible? that s the question i put to jeffrey sachs, professor at columbia university. we should remember the war strategist from classmates who defined war as politics with other means. von clausewitz. the russians are engaged in politics, they have aims, political aims. politics, they have aims, politicalaims. i politics, they have aims, political aims. i have actually stated those political aims very clearly. the neutrality of ukraine, crimea going to russia permanently and the independence of two eastern regions, luhansk and donetsk.