not released 90 cruise missiles in the direction of ukraine. we ve been talking about the consequences of this war spilling into nato and we re seeing that here. todd: that is a great assessment on what happened in messaging. messaging going forward and making sure we don t have messaging mistakes that lead to the next world war iii, what does joe biden and other war leaders need to do so something like this doesn t potentially lead to something more devastating in the future? this is a silver lining in a way, todd, we got a warning. everybody got a warning, in the fog of war, zombie walking into a nuclear warfare type of scennaryio. messaging is extremely difficult. why? not only we don t speak the same language literally with the russians, we also don t speak the language the same lexicon in
people here of 1939. what we are watching here is this shift. the narrative has really changed amongst war leaders who now believe ukraine can win this war if it gets the weapons that it needs. the question is when exactly may that happen. what does that timeline look like? i asked leader mccarthy how long he thought the war may drag on. he told me from his assessment everything he has heard on the ground it sounds like this could go on for months if not even longer. mike. live in warshaw. thank you very much. more than half the children and ukraine have been displaced since the start of the war according to the united nations. some u.s. aid groups are rushing to evacuate orphan children out of ukraine as the russians ramp up their attacks. in poland just about an hour from ukraine. hello, alexis.
past, do you think they were able to hold because of progress in peace negotiations? jonathan: that may have played a role, but 20,000 people getting out of mariupol is significant but the lower end of the number we ve been told are trapped in there is 200,000. clearly getting 20,000 out is a step in the right direction, higher estimate of people stuck in mariupol is 400,000. still a lot of work to do in terms of humanitarian corridors. todd: i m fascinating by your reporting on the gathering of the world leaders, how surprise suggest it the war leaders came into a war zone? jonathan: i think it was stunning display of support, very brave display of support.
he thought this was a roll over. it turns out this basic ade of nato standing together, collective solidarity, supporting people who want freedom, who want the things that european union/nato countries have, that s as strong as it ever was. it is not surprising that president biden wants to come in a sense put his hands together with other nato leaders and talk about this alliance and what it has achieved. i think back historically to franklin roosevelt s visit with allied leaders during world war ii, those incredible moments where fdr shaped strategy with his fellow war leaders. i don t mean to overstate this, but there is going to be a little bit of that. there s going to be a little bit of coming together to think of how to respond to a tyrant, a person bombarding these cities and civilians. we are all seeing the horrifying pictures of the pregnant woman
countries, other war leaders. any peaceful negotiation with russia have no sense because there is no way for us to make sure that putin will keep his word. right now we have heard that there is a bunch of war leaders who will be able to get on security guarantees, but i believe they will be announced after the round of negotiations, this is most critical part. the rest will come along and we will be starting, discussing in ukrainian parliament if needed, however the first and foremost it is security guarantees. most important point one needs to ukraine is not giving up territory or anything. we have already fought for it, we have already died for it, we have stole our blood for it, no way we are saying, you can take