war. and she stands alongside jim webb, who wasn t even in congress at the time but as a public figure and a former secretary of the navy he was on the record at the time opposing the iraq war. to be fair, i m not sure anybody thought to ask martin o malley, who was mayor of baltimore at the time, but at least he certainly didn t vote for the war the way then senator clinton did. and so now hillary clinton has come up with a way to talk about that vote and apologize for that vote in a way that honestly pretty much settles it. at least for the democratic debate audience it did. her answer on that question brought democratic voters in that audience to their feet, cheering for her on that answer. so lincoln chafee of all people jumping on that issue, reminding voters of that war and peace issue, testing whether or not that war issue will still be kryptonite for her politically the way it was in the past, giving her that chance which she took to try to put that issue to rest and to try to
nuclear weaponry what why wouldn t one go for that, no matter what else it does or fails to do? well, you just expressed basically what i think about the deal. what the critics are going to say is that the deal eventually keeps a very big, sort of sfril nuclear program in place that it s a matter of time before iran gets there. and also that even if the deal sticks, they re going to argue that getting rid of the sanctions will give iran suddenly an awful lot of money that they can use to cause problems in the middle east. it goes back to what you said in the beginning, compared to what. and the reason people raise the war issue is because it s not clear how else you can get iran to slow down or stop its nuclear program except through negotiations. we ll have to leave it there
basically what i think about the deal. what the critics are going to say is that the deal eventually keeps a very big, sort of industrial nuclear program in place that it s a matter of time before iran gets there. and also, that even if the deal sticks, they re going to argue that getting rid of the sanctions will give iran suddenly an awful lot of money that they can use to cause problems in the middle east. it goes back to what you said in the beginning, compared to what. and the reason people raise the war issue is because it s not clear how else you can get iran to slow down or stop its nuclear program except through negotiations. we ll have to leave it there for tonight. thanks for joining me, and stuart stevens, great to see you again. thanks for coming back. and when your new book comes out, we re going to have you back then.
killing a lot of other people as well. i didn t think it was a fairy tale. i thought it singled him out as a leader. my thought. what s yours? exactly. you used the word frustration earlier. that s what you heard. the clintons underestimated a couple of things. on the war issue, they underestimated the strength on the democrats. where they came to vanquish the jacksonites. and their idea was that african-americans and peace liberals. fighting the same two constituencies and i think clinton took for granted on at least one of those two, they had that in the bag. they really underestimated the extent to which african-americans wanted not just a friend in the white house which a clinton coming to ride to the rescue signals, but an african-american themselves. and when a credible candidate presented himself, barack obama, the clintons never thought in a million years he would be viable.
what s yours? exactly. you used the word frustration earlier. that s what you heard. the clintons underestimated a couple of things. on the war issue, they underestimated the strength on the democrats. where they came to vanquish the jacksonites. and their idea was that african-americans and peace liberals. fighting the same two constituencies and i think clinton took for granted on at least one of those two, they had that in the bag. they really underestimated the extent to which african-americans wanted not just a friend in the white house which a clinton coming to ride to the rescue signals, but an african-american themselves. and when a credible candidate presented himself, barack obama, the clintons never thought in a million years he would be viable. when he proved to be viable, african-americans said we want the real thing. not the fictional first black president. you re referring to tony morrison.