a year and a half ago they sent in thousands of troops for the first time in 40 years. it s a lawless place. it is a place where narco traffickers and militants, you know, run the place. and it was a perfect place for him to go. you have to remember this is we were fighting and we continue to fight a war in pashtun the southern part of afghanistan with pashtuns and 29 million pashtuns along the border of the northern part of pakistan and they supported bin laden. talk about the raid. when you were going after him in torah bora, a different kind of operation then in abbottabad, which is a big city, you know. in 2001 it was a chase. in 2001, kabul collapsed, he fled the city we chased him down to an area and were engaging him while he was on the run and we were on the run and we had very, very small number of people. i mean we went in with eight men initially, you know, and those eight guys raised the force of a couple thousands of the afghans and delta force came in with