The cass review, as its called, came out last week, and it recommends a new approach for clinicians. This is a Polarising Subject for some people. So, what mightjournalism do differently in how it covers it . Hannah barnes is a former bbc producer who investigated some of the uks gender Identity Services for the corporations newsnight programme. She went on to write a book about it. I asked her when she first started her investigation. First came across it at all in 2017. I was off on my first Maternity Leave and there was a piece in the times Byjanice Turner Which was talking about this really rapid increase in the referrals of Teenage Girls to gids the gender Identity Development service and she had spoken to two clinicians who worked at the service. It wasnt really a Big Sort Of Whistle blowy piece but they had talked to her and said what theyd seen and itjust i thought it was very interesting, but i was off and, you know, spending time with my baby. And there was also a documentary
All of the Wall Street economies were really expecting one to come eventually, so the whole Taylor Swift Demand Story seemed a little off. So thats why we started looking into swiftonomics or what eventually became Swiftonomics Tow and understand. So, thats what you meant by swiftonomics . Yes. So, essentially, itjust became a theory about Supply And Demand and what it said about the us consumer and now, about the global consumer, right, because were seeing the same story. What did it say . What do you think it says . Well, it says something about pent up demand and what the pandemic did to demand, right . Because before the pandemic and i dont want to get too wonky here but before the pandemic, we did see people spending more on services and, of course, when we were locked into our homes during the pandemic, everyone went on amazon and all of a sudden, everyone was buying goods online. So we kind of, like, forgot about experiences. And then the what the Eras Story said was that in a w
doesn t seem to be a rising tide lifting all ships. right. well, let s bring in augusta saraiva from bloomberg economics well, you re the economics reporter at bloomberg and, as i said earlier, you coined the term swiftonomics. well done. how did you start reporting on taylor swift? well, it actually started with a personal question, which was why can t i get tickets? right? so, when she announced that tour in 2022, i was essentially trying to get tickets myself and they were sold out immediately. so, the next morning and, i mean, i, like you said, i m an economics reporter, so i cover things like inflation, the labour market and consumer demand. so, the next morning, i was actually talking to my boss who has who s a dad to two girls, and he also tried to get tickets and couldn t. so, we did ask ourselves this question what does this say about the us economy? right? because i don t know to what extent people in the uk were following what was happening here but back then, in 2
all of the wall street economies were really expecting one to come eventually, so the whole taylor swift demand story seemed a little off, so that s why we started looking into swiftonomics or what eventually became swiftonomics to try and understand. so, that s what you meant by swiftonomics? yes. so, essentially, itjust became a theory about supply and demand and what it said about the us consumer and now, about the global consumer, right, because we re seeing the same story. what did it say? what do you think it says? well, it says something about pent up demand and what the pandemic did to demand, right? because before the pandemic and i don t want to get too wonky here but before the pandemic, we did see people spending more on services and, of course, when we were locked into our homes during the pandemic, everyone went on amazon and all of a sudden, everyone was buying goods online, so we kind of, like, forgot about experiences. and then the what the eras story said was th