point you were for portions of a wall fencing, whatever. and you re has this become about something there s more people leaving they about why it doesn t make sense to a lot of people. but is it also about who we are at this point building this sort of thing that says stay out? yes. well, mika, it s great to be back with you. and this has become really a political symbol for the president more than anything else. and i have supported fencing in the past. we did a major fencing act in 2006. we also know there s very elaborate tunnels under those fences, including places where they have generators and electricity and so on. so we re now 13 years later and we ve got to look at what we
forward a solution on border security, on immigration reform, and let s go through the proper channels of the congress that are built and intended to have this exact conversation. but let s not do it in the context of a shutdown that harms the american people, that harms our economy and risks the pocketbooks of every american. maria: right. what i m trying to better understand is really the makeup of the new congress because, of course, we know that there s a pocket of democrats who just want the president out, and much of it is politics, and they are resisting anything that he would like. we know that nancy pelosi and many of her colleagues voted for a wall and voted for wall fencing years ago many times. we know that there s a border wall in nancy pelosi s own state of california separating tijuana and san diego. but because president trump has the idea, it s resist, resist, resist. you come from a red state. you beat out your opponent on the republic side. do you think there s a mov
left office. lisa: dan, democrats are supported wall fencing in the past. they supported a 25 billion-dollar deal trading with daca. so, why don t they support the wall? what s the hold-up here? lisa, this is an obvious one. you and i both know the answer to this. they just will not give donald trump a victory. this was a signature issue in the trump campaign. that s obvious at this point. he had his finger on the pulse of the immigration issue. when a lot of establishment republicans thought this was a loser for them it s not. you can see it, lisa, based on a lot of the polling where the support for the wall is highest it s been in a very long time. he saw that and they do not want to give him a win no matter what. they are focused on one thing and one thing only. that s impeachment or devastating loss for him in re-election. they won t give him anything. griff: dan, you and i often talk about journalist and the media. i have got to bring to you this we put a little montage