Skype from berlin is director of the Harding Center of a risk literacy professor good. Thanks so much pride for coming on to as i say were going to all be watching our politicians tell us about the fact that they are following the science how should we interpret what those politicians tell us in the in the context of risk and literacy i think it would be really important that people themselves think about the risks to get into or only with their behavior im also not sure that politicians know whats the best thing to do this is a situation of uncertainty where we can know kind of Political Risk but were you know things and also relax a little bit and do reasonable decisions route decisions prufrock for. And the men play and this again in the context of for instance massive numbers of ventilators were bought for corona virus that it turns out we dont need why are we more scared of what is less likely to kill us the a key problem in our society is that we all have learned how to read and