as it stands for everyone. guest: and that is why this should worry us, because, many years ago, actually, in my lifetime and your life time it used to be that the medicare and social security payroll tax were aligned, and they broke the medicare tax and brought it up to $125,000 and they imposed it on all income and then under obamacare they will raise the tax rate and apply it to investment income so if they can go ahead and bust the wage base cap on social security, that is a giant marginal tax rate increase that will make the bush tax cut seem trivial them terms of economic damage it can impose on the economy. neil: if they remove the ceiling altogether, you are talking about raising a lot of money, in doubt about that. but there is no impetus at that point to even look at cost constraints of the program because presumably you have all the gravy coming in and you