i didn t jump to embrace him. you got to look that he had a 20 year battle. let s read what the battle was and where he lost and what was said. as soon as you saw snipers show up and people with the u.s. government show up, my initial thoughts were are we really going to have a waco 2.0 over cattle grazing and a tortoise? you have got to be kidding me. you don t do this even if he is wrong, even if he did not pay his bill or he says it was a land decision. he says i want to pay the state not the federal government. without reading the court cases, to be honest, i read hours of stuff to see he had lost a couple different times. just before we go, i want to say to my friend donna, there is no false equivalency here.