she s up for the full confirmation vote, the hiccup, as it s been reported you have susan collins andmerski are suggesting they will vote no on that. let s walk you through the significance and you have these two republicans saying no, that would mean the vice president would be the tie-breaking vote. reporter: vice president pence coming out of the bull pen to break the tie. let s explain why the matters, sawn spicer was asked and he said 100% he was convinced betsy devos would be the next secretary of education. there was a lot of problems how that came out a lot of concerns for somebody who had been so focused on voucher programs and things of that nature didn t have quite the grasp or
children what i was trying to get at when i talked with ms. devos at the hearing was my concern about the fact that the voucher programs that she had supported made children with disabilities if they were to receive a voucher like kids without disabilities do it made those kids sign away their rights under the i.d.e.a. so i thought it was very important to get her perspective on why she thought that was okay and whether she would, as secretary of education, the country s top education officer charged with making sure that all of our kids have access to free, appropriate public education so that they can thrive and participate in the 21st century, be the work force we need.
there is nothing obscure to my family about the i.d.e.a. there is nothing obscure to most educators i know about the importance of educating all our children what i was trying to get at when i talked with ms. devos at the hearing was my concern about the fact that the voucher programs that she had supported made children with disabilities if they were to receive a voucher like kids without disabilities do it made those kids sign away their rights under the i.d.e.a. so i thought it was very important to get her perspective on why she thought that was okay and whether she would, as secretary of education, the country s top education officer charged with making sure that all of our kids have access to free, appropriate public education so that they can thrive and participate in the 21st century, be the work force we need.
i do think there is that possibility. more concerning is her lack of qualifications. pointing to this response. i m talking about the debate between proficiency and growth. not what your thoughts are on them. well, i was just asking to clarify then well, this is a subject that has been debated in the education community for years. devos s biggest stumble on guns in school. you can t say that guns shouldn t be in schools. i will refer back to senator ense and the school he was talking about in wyoming. i think probably there i would imagine that there s probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies. potential grizzlies, going viral. if confirmed, devos would likely shape education policy through school choice, including voucher
pick betsy devos to lead education department. it s the most controversial confirmation hearing of the day. she s a prominent republican donor, reports school choice, voucher programs, but she s come under fire from teachers union for being in their view anti-public education. trump teamworking to fight off this criticism early. official tells me devos is a disrupter. they believe she s uniquely qualified for the job. just this morning out with an op-ed supporting devos for the pick. you ve seen mitt romney come out in support of her, too. potential fireworks for her. just to mention lieutenant congressmen to lead interior department. a former navy s.e.a.l. who at one point led seal team six. ler start to heat up. tom price for hhs hearing. that is expected to be intense and grueling affair.