january 20th. it was relentless. they didn t give up on january 6th, just because they were unsuccessful in obstructing the vote certification, until, joe biden seems to take this oath of office. this is going to thwart that election, and that is part of the story. it is the singular focus, on the january 6th attack. i think, in some ways, it is distraction, it is a sideshow, for this much larger conspiracy to overthrow the election. it began before the election, in the proceeding, if i looms, the only way i lose is because it will be rigged, and vote by mail is fraudulent. all things he did, leading up to january 6th will be arguing that the election had been stolen. then, all of the things that he said, even after january six, all of it, i think, is evidence of a conspiracy. i think that should be the way that the plot is framed. not as an attack on the capitol on january 6th, but a
after american voters decided, they didn t want that. and, also, after violence has taken place, on january 6th. marjorie taylor greene, her text was on january 17th. how should we process this, given the fact that it is so unprecedented? that is so interesting. if you look at the indictments filed by the justice department, against this plot, they see it didn t end on january six, is just one episode. the plot is going down on january 20th. it was relentless. they didn t give up on january 6th, just because they were unsuccessful in obstructing the vote certification, until, joe biden seems to take this oath of office. this is going to thwart that election, and that is part of the story. it is the singular focus, on the january 6th attack. i think, in some ways, it is distraction, it is a sideshow,
prosecute. it s rarely used. but if there was ever a time to use it, i mean, just looking at the statutory language itself here, two or more people conspiring to prevent, delay the execution of the laws. seems pretty spot on for this. yes, by force. and that s exactly what they allege in the indictment. that by force, two or more people, in this case multiple people of these oath keepers, stormed the capitol in order to prevent, hinder, delay the execution of the laws. that is, the peaceful transfer of power, the certification of the election. it is spot on as to what the statute provides, yeah. kaitlan, the other thing that s interesting here is that, you know, we talked about the efforts to oppose the vote certification on january 6. but this is also about actually opposing the lawful transfer of power on january 20th, making joe biden president. what does it signal to you that it s now sort of sweeping all of
alleged that trump very serious blame. not just from the statement you said before, but judge mehta, said that he was only the person who suggested marching to the capitol while the vote certification was underway. this is kind of a compendium of serious problems, and serious actions that donald trump took on that day and the days before it. so i think it s really serious, and trump has a lot to worry about. what s interesting about the decision, right, is there is a high bar here to get over. there s a high threshold. and he says that giuliani, don jr., they don t get over it. and it s because, you know, political speech is a wide latitude of the first amendment, we want them to be the case. you hear people all the time sane yelling fire in a crowded theater, i think there s a lot of misunderstanding in the general discourse about where the edges of the first amendment is, and brandenburg been sort of this touchstone case here. but this is a sort of
for him legally in the last week? it s a triad of losses. they re all significant. but it s not just that he s facing them, but that he s lost them. starting with the judge s decision in d.c. 100-plus page opinion by a really respected federal judge saying trump very well may have plausibly led to the january 6th attack on the capitol. he isolated out trump s statements, saying he was the only official to suggest marching to the capitol while the vote certification was under way, and the like. i think that looks like a real clear and present danger to donald trump. let s talk a little bit more about that. it was the judge who said, the first ever presidential transfer of power marred by violence. trump s regular use of the word we implies that the president and rallygoers would be acting