about the fifth being pled by michael cohen, they have the documents. him pleading the fifth probably doesn t add a whole lot. the interesting aspect about this is ty cobb and john dowd negotiate a sit down based on four categories. i wrote on those categories saying that was a good deal. those are four areas where i think the president has very strong defenses. that s a frontal attack where your armor is the best. it notably didn t include stormy daniels or some of the issues that i think present existential threats to the president. does it increase risk? yes. but to paraphrase voltaire those that run away often get massacred. do i get the voltaire prize now? you win it. i can stop. okay. [ laughter ] you said it, professor. we re fascinated. elizabeth bumiller, let s change topics and go to dr. ronny jackson.