child versus an older person. now, is she an expert? had she ever heard these voices before? no. she s just telling you what she believes. just like you ve had a bunch of other people come in and say, oh, that is george zimmerman east voice a s voice and that is trayvon martin s voice. you decide. but she told you as best she could what she observed. and what s consistent in terms of what she observed and what happened. because, see, the issue is at that time, when there was contact between the defendant and the victim, tid did it occu the defendant claims, first of all, you really have to believe he really wasn t following him and he was just kind of minding his own business. he was going out for a walk. his walk got interrupted because some guy attacked him. you ve got to believe that. you ve got to believe he wasn t following anybody. he wasn t up to doing anything. he was just kind of minding his