race, gender, sexuality, climate. and i do think we as conservatives need to now level up. we are not just criticizing that agenda but offer an actual vision of our own, individual, family, nation, god. i m leading the way on that. i m going to need the other people on that stage to play their part in revival, too. laura: vivek, we have got to get back to the trump chase here. but thank you for joining us. yes. laura: joining us now is former deputy independent counsel, fox news contributor sol wisenburg and president and founder of the article iii project mike davis. we have our political panel also standing by. mike, trump is arriving at the jail at any moment. but, earlier today, he got a brand new attorney, actually, we re going to go to sol on this question. sol, he got a brand new attorney. i know you know him well. what can you tell us about steven sad do you who will be with him tonight as he gets process dollars? i wouldn t say i know him well. is he outstanding criminal
like security around the courthouse. we want everyone to be safe no matter what is happening in our country, obviously. but just like nancy pelosi created that atmosphere after january 6th, you will to have the barbed wire, you had to have the perimeter. you get the sense they are going to keep this going through the next election which maybe this will effect how people vote. maybe it will be used in other ways to kind of clamp down on speech. but you get that sense that the security threat is used as part of their choreography here. you look at freedom of speech. freedom of the press. the right to petition your government for redress of grievances. all of these things are things that the left does not want us to have. and it s very it s terrifying to actually live through. tyrannical, authoritarian. related. it s misinformation, disinformation. the same thing they threw out during covid they will throw out again. panel is going to stay with me. i want to bring in republican presid
laura: at times when i was listen dog this it sounded like pence and haley had googled old applause line from the reagan years. we have been the leader of the free world and arrests no of democracy. the reagan doctrine made it clear if you are willing to fight the communist on your soil we will give you the means to fight them there so our troops don t have to fight them. the american president need to have moral clarity. they need to know the difference between right and wrong. they need to know the difference between good and evil. laura: but, of course, we all know that at least right now, look, what they are trying to conjure up the old it s morning in america, it s not morning in america. vivek is right about that. it s like we are all mourning america. we all see a vastly different country than it was in the 1980s and even frankly the 1990s. our country is in decline. this decline is not inevitable. it s a choice. i showed it could be done in the state of florida. i ple
misperception. it is a family member of george soros who is long dead at the age of 24 to pay for law school. i will tell you this, laura, anyone e. anybody who would have turned that scholarship down at the age of 24, if they re the same person today should get nowhere near the white house doing trade deals on behalf of this country. the reality is they probably aren t very happy with what i say today. no george soros other than condemning him. donald trump, ohio love and respect. had $160 million loan from george soros. that s not disqualifying. ron desantis has been complemented by george soros in this campaign. hosting fundraisers. i don t think that s disqualifying either. it s good people are asking questions. that s what a primary race is all about and i embrace it. laura: vivek, nobody knows who you were five minutes ago. i know who you are because of your book and we have done so many interviews over the years. i have known you. our viewers are still getting to know you and,
principle. we are skating on thin ice as a country right now, laura. and i think this takes us one step further in the wrong direction. we have to stand on the side of principle, not politics. that goes for everybody in this g.o.p. primary. and i have been vocal for a reason. laura: vivek, you said you are one of the candidates who would support trump as the nominee if he wins the nomination. but, if he is convicted of a crime, here s how former governor of maryland, larry hogan reacted to this. watch. that was the low light of the entire debate. i mean, i was embarrassed and disgusted by it. you know, for six people to raise their hand and say i would put a convicted felon in the white house, it s just beyond comprehension. i mean, in most states, convicted felons don t even have the right to vote. they are not registered voters but we would put them in the white house? laura: the establishment didn t like the rallying around donald trump because they don t like the views of don