and switch focus to that. sean spicer was saying, the obama administration was not that transparent. he called it faux transparency. he said they would have secret meetings and they would not include everyone on the visitor log. at the end of the day administration, the obama administration, there were 6 million individual visitor logs released. it s true after covering the obama white house as well, not every meet, not every visitor was on that visitor log. but there were a lot of them. in fact, thousands and indeed up to millions of them. the administration here sean spicer is saying the obama administration were only acting transparent. they weren t really being trance parent. on the tax returns, the tax release that was so interesting because he said, the president was not releasing his tax returns. he is under audit. again, of course, tomorrow is tax day. it s unclear how he would know
think they re worried about whether or not the visitor log is kept is put on a website. but it was i thought the drain the wamp thing was one of the most effective and powerful things. i remember corey lewandowski was like, you will hear more of that because it really is something that does resonate with people. look, the obama administration they got criticized for this. they did say they would not release names of particularly sensitive meetings. that would be the way of getting around what you are talking about where you don t a lobbyist meeting is not sensitive. something like if you are interesting viewing supreme court justices, that s sensitive. you can hide that. what s strange is sean spicer is saying, criticizing the obama administration who did more than they did. doing more than the trump administration. he is sort of suggesting that an imperfect system under the obama
gets syria under control, the economy running again, i don t think they re worried about whether or not the visitor log is kept is put on a website. i thought the drain the swamp thing was one of the most effective and powerful things. i remember corey lewandowski was like, you will hear more of that. it does resonate with people. look, the obama administration they got criticized for this. they did say they would not release names of particularly sensitive meetings. that would be the way of getting around what you are talking about where you don t a lobbyist meeting is not sensitive. something like if you are interesting viewing supreme court justices, that s sensitive. you can hide that. what s strange is sean spicer is saying, criticizing the obama administration who did more than they did. doing more than the trump administration. he is suggesting that an imperfect system under the obama
wouldn t be elected. they do have some leg to stand on with that. but as you are right, phil rucker, most americans do want to see those taxes. but given the fact that donald trump won t release it and given the fact that now the white house is not releasing things like visitor logs, ken, does this white house have a transparency problem? oh, absolutely. i mean the visitor log is a good case in point. but we go back to the campaign. by see they didn t release their bundlers. this is something that s become a tradition in sort of modern, big money campaign finance. they didn t do that. they were not forthcoming about where they were holding fund-raisers and who was attending or hosting fund-raisers. this is all information that s helpful for us as reporters to inform our listeners, readers or viewers what donald trump is about and where his alliances are and where his potential conflicts of interest are. i think that if we were able to get that information from the visitors logs, from
before we get to crystal here. back in 2012 president trump had that to say about his predecessor. why is barack obama spending millions to try and hide his records. he s the least transparent president ever and he ran on transparency. chris, editor at large, i see your smirk. what s your take? is the white house transparent thuf? do americans care? two different things. first of all, no, they don t care. most people honestly don t even know there is a visitor log at the white house that the obama administration of who came in and who left. and would people like dth doona trump to release his tax returns, most would. was it an issue to lose the election, obviously not. that is a fact. at the same time, i think people