i mean just to be clear i am quoting. i m a journalist, people say it, i quote it. i let you decide whether it s appropriate or not. the use is important here. i m mentioning, not using. i remember when we were talking about donald trump having sworn and at some point you just had to just say the words he said on tv and there were a lot of firsts over the last few years. i have not arrived at a consistent policy on this because it s ludicrous either way. it s ludicrous when you actually say it because it s like silly, but it s also ludicrous when you re like, called you a little b word. every part of this is unreal. thank you, chris, and thanks to you for joining us this hour at home. ten hours is about how much breathable airtime the u.s. coast guard estimates is left for the five men aboard the missing submersible which is named the titan. it began its descent to the wreckage of the titanic saturday. it conducts a search and rescue operation to find them in an are
don t think you re effective they leave you alone. but they want to make examples of people who stand up to their corrupt leader. they think they ve maybe done too good a job of that so they re going after me again. was there something specific? because there s a lot of your colleagues who have done similar things. in terms of why was it particular to me, i led the investigation of donald trump s misconduct visa vi russia, and led the first impeachment trial to the first bipartisan vote to convict a u.s. president in history, and then i served on the january 6th committee, and that put me at the top of trump s enemy list. and so this is them doing their bidding, going after someone they think has been effective, but it s also their effort to try to silence and intimidate others. it s not going to work on me,
just explained there yesterday, he hurt their negotiating position visa vi russia with whom they are in a war right now. which means russia benefits from trump doing that. from trump withholding that military aid, russia benefits from that because it shows that ukraine doesn t have the kind of american and international support that ukraine might have thought they had. and so they re weaker than everybody thought they were. they re more at russia s mercy. right, even with the military aid now being forced to be released because of this scandal, that s how this thing is shaking out now, in terms of who benefits. quote, in the past american diplomats worked closely with kiev in any talks with moskow. they presented a united front with the kremlin, they tried to reassure a nervous ukrainian public. but now the united states is largely absent from the political and diplomatic process over resolving the war in the east. the leader of one pro-u.s. political party in ukraine
itself hurts ukraine. that benefits russia, right? the president was holding up aid to ukraine to try to pressure them to cook up these investigations to help them against the democrats in 2020. but in using ukraine that way and in putting on ice hundreds of millions of dollars of u.s. aid to them, he hurt them. he hurt their national security. he specifically as bill taylor just explained there yesterday, he hurt their negotiating position visa vi russia with whom they are in a war right now. which means russia benefits from trump doing that. from trump withholding that military aid, russia benefits from that because it shows that ukraine doesn t have the kind of american and international support that ukraine might have thought they had. and so they re weaker than everybody thought they were. they re more at russia s mercy. right, even with the military aid now being forced to be
impeachment you ll recall that abuse of power, obstruction of justice were articles that were voted out of the judiciary nixo decision to bomb cambodia which at the end of the day was a policy issue. so the hesitancy you hear on our part is not because i don t think the evidence is amply clear there was staggering abuse of power, that there was obstruction of justice both in this case and in volume 2 of the mueller report. it feels like ancient history now, but that s the president trying to find every way possible to end the investigation into his conduct visa vi russia. i just don t think we re at the point quite yet where we want to second guess what the judiciary committee may choose to offer up as articles of impeachment. i would only point you to the other news we re getting to, which is the chair of your committee is previewing other