president is explaining the politics of why they can t get done. correct. especially on the dream act for example which steve jobs was a big supporter of. he said you can t do the dream act unless you codo it in the context of visa reform, immigration reform. steve jobs had a way, as we said earlier, of just pushing whatever he wanted. if he felt that the macintosh could be out by january, somehow or another everything would happen and magical thinking would get it out by january. you can not do the that in government. the last meeting i had with steve before he died we are talking about a variety of things and he said, somehow obama comes up and he said, you know the problem with obama he just won t piss people off, get them mad. he won t anger them and i wasn t thinking politics, i was thinking steve jobs, yeah, that s not a problem i have. did the grasp that that steve jobs could push people past their limit.
explaining why they couldn t get done. what i read in that is the president is explaining the politics of why they can t get done. correct. especially on the dream act for example which steve jobs was a big supporter of. he said you can t do the dream act unless you codo it in the context of visa reform, immigration reform. steve jobs had a way, as we said earlier, of just pushing whatever he wanted. if he felt that the macintosh could be out by january, somehow or another everything would happen and magical thinking would get it out by january. you can not do the that in government. the last meeting i had with steve before he died we are talking about a variety of things and he said, somehow obama comes up and he said, you know the problem with obama he just won t piss people off, get them mad. he won t anger them and i wasn t thinking politics, i was thinking steve jobs, yeah,
portugal and the other examples are raising their top rates at a time when logic would seem to dictate, probably not wise right now. guest: well, we are hopeful and this could be naive, we remain hopeful that real leadership will prevail and we re not going to tax our way out of the economic morass we mind ourselves in but grow our way out of that. neil: do you see anything now that would have us grow out? i had a real estate specialist what sees nothing on the horizon? guest: we have some short-term things, we node some easy wins and we ought to pass the free trade agreements and do things hike address visa reform to get more people visiting the country and spending money and
a republican tea party audience. i don t know that it works with that crowd. but i wish you had shown the mitt romney answer on immigration. because, one fascinating thing to me about this primary is that mitt romney in the mainstream media is viewed as the more moderate candidate. but here is a person who has taken his rhetoric so far to the right on immigration, you just have to wonder if he s still electable with the biggest growing part of the population. and also, on social security and medicare. it s amazing that the republican party is in a place where someone like mitt romney, who wants to privatize social security, and essentially end medicare, is somehow the moderate in this race. kevin? well, i think that it s very mainstream position that governor romney has when it comes to talking about what we re going to do to secure our borders, make sure we re not providing incentives for people to come here and break the law. that s a very mainstream position. i also think he s
like visa reform, areas where we can find common ground and begin to fix what is broken. so i m asking you to add your voices to this debate. you can sign up to help at white house.gov. we need washington know that there s a reform for movement from coast to coast. that s how we ll get this done. that s how we can ensure in the years ahead that we are welcoming the talents to all whom can contribute to the base being of this country and the idea that you can make it here if you try. [ applause ] that s the idea that gave hope to jose hernandez. is jose here?