informants that turned over things like a november 2020 meeting recording of the oath keepers talking about what the justice department says was sa dishes planning and also in which sorell was bragging about her relationship to the campaign and to people in the trump world. so, as we re watching all of this information come out in this case, we re also seeing how the oath keepers were believing they could get in touch with trump himself, perhaps, or at least people very close to him. so, there s this call with sorell, also a vip signal chat we learned about where the oath keepers were talking about security around the rally for planning. and then also last week, it s a lot of information here, there s a cooperator saying in court he overheard a call where someone rhodes wanted to get in touch with trump himself. he ultimately didn t but he placed that call to someone. it gets to their potential criminal wrongdoing but what communication did they have with the administration at the