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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:04:32:00

attempted murder of dr. tiller. and suddenly law enforcement in the state of kansas is one degree of separation from the fringiest of the fringe, the violent fringe. and that is how extremism is mainstreamed. we almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans crusade to defund planned parenthood. are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? well, of course i am. this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called abortion: ending the holocaust. this is the way you construct a national mainstream republican candidacy now. you stand beside abortion as the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:08:31:00

we almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans crusade to defund planned parenthood. are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? well, of course i am. this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called abortion: ending the holocaust. this is the way you construct a national mainstream republican candidacy now. you stand beside abortion as the holocaust events, you advocate shutting down the federal government rather than allowing funding for pap smears at planned parenthood. that s the republican mainstream and you want to be hard-core in your anti-abortion views, where does the mainstream stop and the fringe begin anymore? where is the line? joining us now for the interview tonight is steven singulair. he is author of the new book the witchta divide: the murder

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:04:40:00

his latest book 25 years later is about the assassination of dr. george tiller by scott roeder in 2009. mr. singular says he thinks the book about dr. tiller is a sequel of sorts to the book about alan berg s murder. he says, the overwhelming difference in the united states between 1984 when alan berg was shot in an act of domestic terrorism and 2009 was that extremism was no longer extreme. the sense of victimization that had once fueled the order was now broadcast 24 hours a day on talk radio, on cable television, and encouraged in countless other respectable venues. stephen, you talk a lot in this book about the mainstreaming of what used to be fringe ideas. do you see parallels in the motivation of these different fringe figures who committed these two murders 25 years

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:01:32:00

the state of kansas is one degree of separation from the fringiest of the fringe, the violent fringe. and that is how extremism is mainstreamed. we almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans crusade to defund planned parenthood. are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? well, of course i am. this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called abortion: ending the holocaust. this is the way you construct a national mainstream republican candidacy now. you stand beside abortion as the holocaust events, you advocate shutting down the federal government rather than allowing funding for pap smears at planned parenthood. that s the republican mainstream and you want to be hard-core in your anti-abortion views, where does the mainstream stop and the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:08:40:00

stephen, you talk a lot in this book about the mainstreaming of what used to be fringe ideas. do you see parallels in the motivation of these different fringe firs s figures who committed these two murders s s 25 years apart? there s no question about it. scott roeder was very familiar with the turner diaries, which was the novel that the order used to carry out their 240 crimes that they committed in 1983 and 1984. this was a violently anti-semitic fantasy novel that was sold at gun shows. timothy mcveigh was involved in that as well. there s a thread that runs through the whole story. berg was familiar with it, mcveigh was very familiar with it, he blew up a building at 9:00 in the morning, which was a scene in the novel. and roeder traveled in some of the same circles and was around the same literature.

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